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That was part of the Detroit Zoo?… Read More

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What surprised me was he said because you treat me like a human being. Read More

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What?… Read More

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And then the next zoo that you went to, where was that, and how did you decide that’s the zoo I’d like to work at?… Read More

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I really didn’t have a choice. Lost a job, and living on unemployment. Steve Graham, then the Detroit Zoo director, kind of rescued me, and I arrived at Detroit. Internally, he was very, very difficult. I was at Belle Isle Zoo in Detroit. It’s sort of a, hate to say… Read More

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How come?… Read More

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So within a matter of nine month or so, three department heads left. I was one of them. Read More

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And you then, that was, so you were there from 1981 to 1987?… Read More

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Mm-hmm. Read More

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What were some of the high points during your time at Milwaukee Zoo?… Read More

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The things I have, as I said, research project, we got some of them published, and have a good rapport with keepers. That was a more relaxed position, but the zoo changed eventually. And I was kicked out. And within a matter of nine month, for the internal problems, three… Read More

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Gilbert Bose. Read More

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And who were some of the, you were general curators, so who were some of your staff, senior staff people?… Read More

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Now I have to, it was long ago. I have to think for a while. Okay. Read More

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After all, a zoo is a collection of live animals, and behavior is what we talked about, so she and I co-wrote research papers, basically on ethology, the behavior. It’s the safest area. You don’t have to do physical manipulation too much to do ethology. So that was worthwhile. Read More

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Who was, the director was?… Read More

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Read More

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How did that come about, and why did you wanna go to that particular zoo?… Read More

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It was quite large. At that time, modernization was needed somehow. So here comes a PhD. Gilbert Bose. And then I, as the curator, with a master’s degree. So modernization has begun. And one of the things I really liked was to coordinate research project with a local college. Bring… Read More

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What prompted you to leave the Tulsa Zoo?… Read More