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Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 206

So who was gonna raise the money for the zoo?… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 207

And I had not been real successful in raising money for the zoo from the city. The biggest grant I got under the city of Pittsburgh that I remember, it was $200,000. And the reason that occurred was, for one, previous generations in the city had upset the foundation community… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 208

And I sat before city council with this gift to the city, ’cause we were city run at that time, of $2.2 million to build this new education center and this new office center, right?… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 203

And we had workshops at the zoo on the same thing. Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 204

We brought people in to try to figure out, well, who should run the zoo?… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 205

Because the Zoo Society at that time was not strong. And the most money our Zoo Society at that time had raised was a million bucks. They were doing the education program, they were supporting education, and they had the membership program when I first got there, and then we… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 200

Well, we did a lot of things at Pittsburgh. I mean, we were one of the first zoos to privatize back in 1993, ’94. The city was having a very difficult time at that time. The mayor came to me and told me they were $35 million in the hole… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 201

And so I did, I studied that for 14 months and put together a task force of major people, I mean like the managing partner, PricewaterhouseCoopers, a major accounting firm in Pittsburgh, and worldwide, actually. And put together a whole team of people to work with us on all the… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 202

And then I went to the zoos, the few zoos at that time that had privatized, and I went to those zoos to learn about what they had done for privatization, and what had worked for them, and what was the best thing for them at that time, and how… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 197

So we managed, at Pittsburgh, over a million gallons of water, and I know nothing about aquariums. So you really have to trust the people that know a whole lot about it. So I’m very inquisitive. I would ask questions, I’d ask a lot of questions. And when somebody would… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 198

You’re the guy that knows about fish. I don’t know squat about fish, and I know I don’t know anything about fish, so educate me, tell me, show me what you know. And so without a doubt I was a strong leader. I don’t think, I certainly wouldn’t be called… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 199

During your career at the zoo, what would you consider to be like a major event that affected not only Pittsburgh, but zoos in general?… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 194

So I really tried hard to set them up to succeed and to give ’em the resources they needed not to fail. However, that doesn’t mean that you don’t let ’em fail, because you do. Because people, one of the things we did at Pittsburgh was we tried a lot… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 195

We’ll try that, what the heck?… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 196

And so you try that kind of thing. So we were very much, my management style was, try. Let’s see if it works, and if we fail, we laughed and said, uh oh, that was bad. Hopefully no animal was harmed, but, that was bad, we’re not doing that again. Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 192

Senior managers. And so often I would have to be the tiebreaker. One thing I can think of is that the aquarium team had a penguin that had an eye issue, and the veterinarians wanted to grab it three times a day to treat the eye, and the penguin team… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 193

So it just depended on who made the best case where the tiebreaker would end up. But it wouldn’t necessarily, I tried very, very hard not to play favorites, although people criticize you when you say that you don’t play favorites, but you do play favorites. And it’s not because,… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 189

So for example, we had an animal management team, which made up of all the curators and the horticulturists too, ’cause plants are living thing too, you know?… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 190

And so animal management team in the zoo, and that animal management team would meet once a week, every Thursday at one o’clock for 31 years we met. And often, I put my team together so that everybody was equal. So the curators were equal to the veterinarians, who were… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 191

So all the team was equal in their senior status, right?… Read More

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