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Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 173

And more importantly getting to know the players so I could, you know, pick up the phone and ask somebody at another facility, what have you guys done about this?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 170

That was his focus and I was his guy. So he was sending me, first of all, one of the things he says, I want you to go to every professional marine mammal meeting and I’m going to, like I said, the Aquatic Animal vets. Read More

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And I’m like, what do I know about this?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 169

You know, and well, Mr. Breaker, da da da da da. And you know, and you can tell it’s bad ’cause a fish even are not eating it. And when he put it in the water, it floats which good, healthy, you know, fresh fish, it would sink and they’d… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 167

Your guy keeps rejecting the fishes. So again, I get called up to the, the Wizard of Oz’s office. Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 168

It’s like, Jim, what’s going on with this?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 164

Yes, yes. It started when I was assistant curator of fishes where one of my responsibilities was, for instance, oiling the fish. And I have to admit, I was pretty shy about colon these vendors up there I didn’t know anything about. And, you know, asking, you know, for best… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 165

And they were sending us a product that was less than desirable. We’d get boxes of smelt and it’d be freezer burned, meaning it was dried and kind of crinkled. It was freezer, you know, the animal tissues. It shrunk. I think their attitude was, I got to fish, eat… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 166

And I got to a point where I started rejecting shipments and finally the head of pick fisheries calls Bill Breaker and says, Hey, what the heck’s going on over there?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 161

Well that’s because we are creating hiding places for them. And we set the tank up, you got the water up, you got the water chemistry good, you’d introduced the little guys first. So they get to know where to hide and then eventually the sharks go in. And not… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 162

Yeah. Everything for this exhibit?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 163

Yes. Yes. Are you speaking of the Oceanarium exhibit?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 159

Certainly when we did the, the wild reef exhibit had the large, we call the shark exhibit and it’s got some very neat animals in there. But you know, with sharks, and we had a sawfish in there, they need space. They need a lot of space. And by the… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 158

And it was, it was a lot of fun for us because number one, we saw the benefit of more space for the animals, the fishes to swim in. And man, this looks pretty cool. We had a guy that was just fantastic with plants and he’d get this thing… Read More

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Well, how do you know they’re not gonna get picked off by the sharks?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 156

And we never did. And the permit expired. So Now at, at this time in this new position, were you starting to develop any new philosophies about exhibit design and developing a collection?… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 157

You know, bigger is always better type of thing. And with the oceanarium, I, I was quite satisfied with the size of the exhibits and the spaces we had. And at that point, you know, I was all marine mammals all the time with the fishes. We were getting more… Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 155

And we said, no, it’s just we have it and we’re just not gonna pursue it at this time. Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 153

I’m sure it killed him. I’m sure he just like, he says, but we’re gonna pursue the permit. We’re gonna get the permit. We just will not exercise the permit. Read More

Interview 29556 – Caption Index: 154

And that’s what we did. He was concerned that if we did not pursue the permit, the animal rights activists would say, aha, victory, they’re dropping out of the false killer whale game, you know?… Read More

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