But it’s the same building, and that building is just fabulous architecturally. And the primate house, the bird house, and what we call the antelope areas, big rocks area, red rocks area, it’s some really, and our bear pits, were all historical structures that were built, I mean, the bear… Read More
You talked about a master plan for the zoo and said, I guess there was a couple of master plans through the ages. Read More
What, as part of the master plan, what did you design or aid in planning of new exhibits when you were there?… Read More
Or maybe a little before you, were you able to complete some projects that had started, or you wanted to do, or you thought should happen?… Read More
And everybody’s important, whether they’re the custodial staff or the, you know, head of of finance or HR, they’re important people, they’re employees of the zoo. Read More
And gosh, you know, even today, 15 years after I’ve retired, I go there and you know, some of those people are still there and it just feels good to you know, “Oh, how you doing,” you know?… Read More
Were there policies that you developed, that you developed that helped change the zoo?… Read More
I don’t know about policies. I think whether they were mine or Charlie’s, I think we, it was just, we had a lot of the same backgrounds. We both had grown up very similarly in South St. Louis, and it was funny how much we thought alike. So whether I… Read More
It you know, you know that you know everybody, you know?… Read More
Or you didn’t, that never came up?… Read More
No, no, I would, would talk with Charlie, you know when, after he was retired, and still friends with Charlie. Read More
Hmm, shoo boy. In terms of a mentor, I guess early on Charlie, you know, was certainly a mentor. I mean, I learned a lot from Charlie. Other, Murray Fowler was certainly somebody that I looked up to as a veterinarian. I mean when I was in school, the professors… Read More
I mean when you had, okay, when you had something going on that was bothering you or you weren’t sure, did you as director, did you reach out to Charlie, ’cause he was the former director?… Read More
Did you have that kind of relationship to say, “Look, I got an issue here,” and that kinda thing?… Read More
I enjoyed budgeting. I mean I’ve always, you know, been able to keep things within budget, and control the finances fairly well. So yeah, I probably enjoyed that part of it. Through your time at the zoo, specifically maybe as director, some new things coming at you, some old things… Read More
Was there ever, did you have a mentor, someone you could reach out to and talk to when you had issues or questions, either inside the zoo or outside?… Read More
Were there situations as director where you learned something new?… Read More
Well, I knew that, I would say that the president was very good at promoting the zoo, and very good at promoting himself also. And when he did, he always brought me along, and I’m not often as much of a self promoter, and he was able, you know, to… Read More
Did you enjoy budgeting, or was it just something you had to do?… Read More
Well I mean, I was still doing the same stuff that I did when I was assistant director. In a way, I was doing, I kinda oversaw development a little bit when, I mean, as assistant director I was over that, and I was no longer over that, which was… Read More