Well I mean, I was still doing the same stuff that I did when I was assistant director. In a way, I was doing, I kinda oversaw development a little bit when, I mean, as assistant director I was over that, and I was no longer over that, which was not a, I mean, I can schmooze with the donors and everything, and I mean, you become friends with them. And so it was not, you know, a difficult thing, but to not do it was not a problem for me either. And, and because I did have, sometimes there was, differences of opinion, I guess. I did not come from a wealthy background, and so donating large amounts of money was not ever part of my family upbringing.
