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Interview 22122 – Caption Index: 488

And Dr. Gilula, who is one of our consultants, was there, he’s a physician, he’s a radiologist at the medical school. And he says, “Well you can’t necessarily judge, just because of that narrowing. There could be some other things going on. You need to do a, you know, CAT… Read More

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And she’s waiting eight months to get Dr. Ford. So that’s just a sideline of it. So Sunday morning after Dr. Gilula set it up, we anesthetized the cheetah. Steve Bircher, who’s our curator of carnivores and I, and a couple other keepers. We got the animal anesthetized, we got… Read More

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That was Dr. Eschenroeder’s hospital we used at that time. Read More

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Now is that a difference between the cheetah and the Barnes Hospital?… Read More

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He says, “We’re already going 10 miles past the speed limit.” I said, “I don’t care, go 20 miles past the speed limit. We gotta get back to the zoo. I don’t wanna give it anymore anesthesia. It’s doing fine right now, but it’s gonna be awake before we get… Read More

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I said, “Raise the head of the cheetah a little higher so that cop can see what we got in here, you know?” So they raised it up, you know, high enough that it could see through the window. And he never stopped us, we got on in. I don’t… Read More

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And what hospital was that?… Read More

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At one point we had, our x-ray machine wasn’t working. I don’t remember even what was wrong with it, but we had a veterinarian in town that said, okay, we can transport the animal over there, and you know, we can use their, you know, x-ray machine. And we did… Read More

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And I’m telling the driver, “Speed it up,” you know?… Read More

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And I mean, you know you’re there, and so you’re hoping to get into the large muscle masses, usually in the back leg. And (chuckling) unfortunately at that time I darted and the animal moved it or whatever, and instead of hitting in the leg, it hit the animal in… Read More

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The keepers, oh gosh did they jump. (chuckling) Now you’ve worked with big cats, and you’ve had to work with cheetahs as you mentioned, and you had one cheetah that woke up in the transportation?… Read More

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You’re a pretty expert shot, and what occurred?… Read More

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Well, not at one time. I darted lots and lots of chimpanzees, and lots of animals. And of course you wanna, especially if you’re using the Palmer capture gun, you wanna hit them in, you know, one of the large muscle masses. Usually the leg muscles are the, you know,… Read More

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And just because you mentioned outside activities, and going to Brookfield to assist with them, you also had some outside activities with San Francisco Zoo?… Read More

Interview 22122 – Caption Index: 474

Well, that was not to treat an animal. That was the, the veterinarian there was, they had some issues with the veterinarian. There was an acting director there who called us in. There was myself and two other veterinarians that were, Mary Fowler being one of them, Phil Robinson the… Read More

Interview 22122 – Caption Index: 475

But certainly he was practicing good medicine. So you’ve had outside activities, but certainly the main of your focus has been at the- Oh, St. Louis Zoo, yeah. And you had to at one time dart a chimpanzee. Read More

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What tranquilizer were you using?… Read More

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I did use M99, or etorphine, in the initial knockdown of the animal, but then we maintained it on barbiturate anesthesia. Read More

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That animal can’t move its head at all or anything, ’cause I’m gonna be in there dissolving that cataract, and getting it out of there.” Well, the first difficult part was, I better make sure that when that elephant goes down, that he goes down on the left side, because… Read More

Interview 22122 – Caption Index: 469

So you know that was, you know the elephant was pretty docile, pretty easy to handle to give it an injection, but how are we gonna get it so that it fell on its left side?… Read More

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