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Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 119

What were some of the high points during your time at Milwaukee Zoo?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 120

The things I have, as I said, research project, we got some of them published, and have a good rapport with keepers. That was a more relaxed position, but the zoo changed eventually. And I was kicked out. And within a matter of nine month, for the internal problems, three… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 116

Gilbert Bose. Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 117

And who were some of the, you were general curators, so who were some of your staff, senior staff people?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 118

Now I have to, it was long ago. I have to think for a while. Okay. Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 114

After all, a zoo is a collection of live animals, and behavior is what we talked about, so she and I co-wrote research papers, basically on ethology, the behavior. It’s the safest area. You don’t have to do physical manipulation too much to do ethology. So that was worthwhile. Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 115

Who was, the director was?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 111

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 112

How did that come about, and why did you wanna go to that particular zoo?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 113

It was quite large. At that time, modernization was needed somehow. So here comes a PhD. Gilbert Bose. And then I, as the curator, with a master’s degree. So modernization has begun. And one of the things I really liked was to coordinate research project with a local college. Bring… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 108

What prompted you to leave the Tulsa Zoo?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 109

Larger job. Maybe a little more money. But larger collection. Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 110

And your next job is at the Milwaukee Zoo?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 106

Have you heard of Hediger?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 107

That sort of thing. Sometime it works, most of the time it doesn’t work. People have independent minds. Now, at the Tulsa Zoo, as you mentioned, you got your citizenship. You got a master’s degree. Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 103

How important was professional growth for your staff?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 104

With the staff?… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 105

Yeah. At times, it’s difficult because they think that they know what they’re doing, but ultimately, you have a keeper class bringing speakers, including the zoo director, and so on, encourage them to, cannot force them to, but read books. At that time, it was before the internet, so just… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 101

At least I was very fair. And if you do the job, I may leave you alone. But if you can’t do the job, worse yet, if you don’t want to do the job, come to my office. Close the door. And have a talk. And just tell them you… Read More

Interview 20517 – Caption Index: 102

You listen to me and prove yourself, or else. There’s the door. If you have any questions, fine. Otherwise, just get the heck out. Read More

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