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It was really difficult. And so somehow I made it through and I had a good, good education I that, that I did some graduate school work in Long Beach State, but was a little easier. Read More

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When did you decide that you wanted to work at a zoo?… Read More

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I saw bald eagle, I saw golden eagles, I saw bobcat right in the property. So, and the cross was a, was a big marsh a while, waterfowl area. So it was a lot of, a lot of things to do there. Read More

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Yeah. How? One they passed me, yes, there were a couple. One was James Murdoch and he taught probably the only course I got an A in, he taught animal behavior, which was one of the last courses that I took. And he was an interesting guy and that was… Read More

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So during this time, did any teacher have an effect on your life?… Read More

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And it would, the wolves were the other choice. And there was, this guy had this great sense of humor and we chose the anteaters. And it was, and it still is a mascot to this day. And so it was fun. It was fun to be there The first… Read More

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So I think I listed Irvine first, Santa Barbara, and then maybe UCLA, I don’t know. But anyway, I got into uc, Irvine and it was the first four year class. There were 13, there was, yeah, 1300 of us, 500 lived in the dorm. And it was a brand… Read More

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And so I went there and now it’s 35,000 or 40,000. It’s a beautiful campus and it was the sixties, so it was a weird time. But sometime we got to do some things like we got to find a mascot. And again, it was the sixties so we had… Read More

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I had degree, I went to, I went to uc, Irvine for a couple of reasons. We always took our vacations in Newport Beach Balboa. And so that area I knew well and I liked it. And the new university, university of California, Irvine was gonna be open in 65. Read More

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Which ones first?… Read More

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Yes, I really, I started reading about zoos probably in junior high. And I started read, the first one was a zoo in my luggage by Gerald Durrell. And, but that, and then I read all his books, you know, and that got me very much interested in zoos. So,… Read More

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So I know I probably in high school, probably in high school, I thought, well, I’ll be a biology teacher. And then I realized I really didn’t wanna do that. And so from then on in college, I really felt that I’d, I could be a, I’d wanted to work… Read More

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What kind of schooling did you have then?… Read More

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And what zoos did you see when you were growing up?… Read More

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Did, what impressions did they have on you?… Read More

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A lot. I think now we only had Griffith Park Zoo. It wasn’t in the new location, you know, it was in a different location and I think I, I know I went there once with my two sisters, treated me like their child. They took me everywhere with their… Read More

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So my friend Alan Smith and I were looking through the fields through stuff and this policeman came up and said, are you kids looking for trouble?… Read More

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And we held up our bags, no, just insects. And he just laughed and ran away. So, so animals had always been part of my life. Yeah. Read More

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Had a horn towed that I got on one rare visit to the dentist, to the desert as well as a myrtle la turtle, a desert tortoise in there. So I had these, these animals. And in the house I had a hamster and parakeet, a fish, fish bowl, you… Read More

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Yes. From the very, I don’t know what got me interested in animals. My father was sort of like an engineer. My brother was an engineer. My two sisters did, did some work, but were basically housewives and, but I always had an interest in animals. We had a cat… Read More

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