I mean, it was knocking the gorilla down, and taking it in to x-ray it or something. Or you know, how the things you get. And you need equipment and you need help from these outside people who are specialists. I had a TB guy that’d read every x-ray we… Read More
And I had a student on a little, we had our own scholarship. And she stayed with, she went there every day. She loved dogs anyway. And she was there every day for about three or four months observing that litter, and seeing if any of them, if they all… Read More
And it was invaluable. Now, I tried to do the same thing with research. That was a form of research, what I just described. But research on I would hope behavioral, and maybe some taxonomic. I had the university, both universities were on this animal research council. And we would,… Read More
How important was science and research to Oklahoma City?… Read More
And we have a veterinary school just 40 miles away. And we had the dean of that and all that. This group, we would feed them once a month. They met on the same day of the month. They didn’t just eat. And we also gave them a little to… Read More
In one area it was excellent. Every zoo needs medical help. When I got there, we needed equipment, we needed specialists. And we didn’t, we had one vet, excellent vet. One of the best things about that vet was he could ask for help from an MD, and they would… Read More
There were other more educational experiences that I had. Read More
I took the appraiser over there. He said, “You want the whole thing appraised?” I said, “No, I want the part. I just want half of it appraised. Because you know, I’m gonna have to buy half, and the Feds are gonna buy half.” “Okay, which one do you?” “I… Read More
What happened with that evolution of bringing the zoo up, was that such a difficult thing?… Read More
Just had to work the bureaucracy, and then go out and work the BRO, both of those would give you half of the price. And it was well known, I mean, I’m not gonna tell anything that’s out of, it was common practice, I learned it. That if, for instance,… Read More
You have to fight a lot of battles to get all that land?… Read More
You said that this process was the most educational, yet depressing activity in your professional animal care career. Read More
Space constraints in the Oklahoma City Zoo were just non-existent. If we wanted to, well, they just built an elephant area, and I think it’s something like three and half, four acres. That’s a lot of space. That’s a lot of space. And I think I told you earlier that… Read More
No. Read More
(Lawrence laughs) To what extent did space constraints, we’re talking about the zoo, indoors and outdoors hinder, or did it, your ability to plan improvements?… Read More
It did not?… Read More
It’s still a mystery. (Mark laughs) And I’m surprised. I mean, that was, that was a long time ago. I don’t know where you got it, but- Our research department. Well, it’s a pretty good research department. Read More
Anybody I know?… Read More
There’s a, it’s a, just moving ahead. Okay. Read More
$25,000 more at the gate. Read More