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Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 127

Yeah. Or or Oh absolutely. Are You thinking of other things?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 126

So was this by virtue of this building your first priority?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 124

So really turned the zoo around. We did a lot of other things to turn the zoo around in that time too. But that was a, that was a biggie. And again, had, it wasn’t just me either. We had complete support from the park commission and from my boss,… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 125

Took the crocodile exhibit instead of looking down into a pool, we went down and put glass in front. So you see the things underwater and I mean, so many changes we had in a restaurant to it. There was no elevator. We had an el public elevator to it. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 123

Yeah, quite a bit. The rainforest was gonna change it. I don’t know if I knew that at first. The rainforest changed the whole thing. ’cause it was the first, I shouldn’t say totally, they had some okay exhibit. It was this first modern exhibit. It really had a tight… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 122

And so the, so you’ve seen an old time zoo when you come there?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 121

You know, the roofs were mostly on it. Long as story short, it took three and a half years to finish. But we made it really an acceptable exhibit. It went from $10 million to like 35 million or something at the time we finished. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 118

I mean, what kind of clothes do you wear?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 119

Is there restaurants? So what do you do?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 120

And three and a half years later we were married. So, and she’s from Ohio. And so that, that’s one of the reasons I stayed. And so I got there and, and yeah, there was a lot of, they had started this thing called the rainforest. It looked like it… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 116

This young lady came and sit next to me. So I started a conversation with her and I’m yaking away. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 117

What’s it like? How bad is the snow?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 115

And then they came a group of ’em, the Sioux Society president, the the Metro Parks director, the commissioner they came to, to Sacramento and interviewed me there and walked around the zoo and saw me interact with staff and stuff. And somehow they decided I was the guy. So… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 114

And I did what I could do really. And I loved it. I loved Sacramento. I would’ve, if we could have done a little bit more expansion, I would’ve probably stayed there forever. I loved the city, I loved who I worked for. And, but it was just a small… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 113

So it’s still a 12 right now. It’s still a 12 acre zoo. But your tenure is shorter. Yeah. And you make that decision to leave because, Well, we weren’t gonna have I, well it was almost a no brainer I’d said, other than the fact that I was a… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 111

We did that about three times. And so that’s when we got a curator. So we were able to add a curator to the staff. So we then had to keepers report to a curator and, and then we were able to, then the society kept growing. ’cause we grew,… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 112

So it was quite an expansion of the staff and we were able to do much more. That’s why the attendance screws and everything else. But then we did a master plan and we probably should have had more of the neighborhood involved around the park and I’m not sure… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 108

So, and we did a lot of smaller things too. We took the, the chain link fence around the flamingos. I know you and I were talking at lunch about little moats they do for, for camels in Europe. But we took down this fence. I just made a mound… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 109

When I, when I left, we also went from 300,000 to 600,000 guests. We, and then I’ll tell you why I moved in a minute. But when we were doing a master plan and all this, what we were able to do, we were able to go to city council… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 110

Could we use half the money to expand the staff?… Read More

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