Somewhat unpredictable because we’d have, I’d like to plan things and, and we have plans, but then sometimes you have a plan and as you go through it you realize you gotta change things a little bit. Some people say, no, we gotta stick to the plan. No, sometimes we… Read More
So tell me what, how would you describe your management style?… Read More
And the first one I worked very well with, but he didn’t work, work very well with the board. He was a great fundraiser. So then they brought the second one in the banker and we, we did okay together for a while, but in the end it was more… Read More
The beginning and the end. The middle was great. The beginning because I had, there were two years for the city and as that changed, as soon as we privatized, you know, then my, my salary increased dramatically finally. And the, and, and we could, but those, those first two… Read More
You know, something like that. So, but we, we, we always included the appropriate animal staff and facilities was in there, you know, the, the normal planning that you would do. But I, I used, i, I changed architects, but first I used Pat Janowski, who, who worked with me… Read More
So during your time in Houston, what would you say were some of your more frustrating or challenging times?… Read More
I mean, he’s known for his Nick and Moore exhibits, but Ray knows a lot about a lot of, he knows interpretive stuff too. And we, and we had a videographer with us too. So we tion a lot of footage of gorillas, elephants and other things that, that we… Read More
Well do we really need a 14 high foot wall when 12 works in every other zoo for chimps?… Read More
When you were developing at Houston, when you were developing exhibits, what staff did you include when developing the new exhibits?… Read More
Oh, we included the, the senior keepers, the curators. We would bring zoo architects in. Obviously that had experience because sometimes with the animal staff, they haven’t built a new exhibit yet. And a lot of times they would ask for stuff that sounded nice, but maybe a bit extravagant. Read More
It’s the best money she ever spent because it took many years. But now, now there’s a vaccine. First of all, we learned how to treat it better. And then we started saving elephants. But now he’s got a vaccine that actually works and they can test the efficacy of… Read More
We need to, we need to be the leaders in research for, for the herpes. And we have the largest medical center in the world next door. And I just got a call from the head virologist of Baylor College of Medicine and he asked if he could help. He… Read More
’cause this is a problem in the wild, you know, they weren’t just dying in zoos. And it was probably, it was our darkest moment. It was kind of like, NASA failure is not an option. You know, we we’re not gonna fail here, we’re gonna attack this problem, we’re… Read More
All the board members wanted to be on that committee. It was ’cause it was exciting. We were bringing people in, you know, now, now we had all these conservationists in the field that were part of our family. We had these great stories to tell. So that, that, that… Read More
And every elephant that we had born there died of elephant herpes, EEHV. We had a history of that to the point that the animal rights people, and even well, animal welfare people, you have no business having elephants. They’re all dying eventually. Not the adults, you know. So we… Read More
Did your conservation programs have difficulties getting off the ground?… Read More
No, not at all. Because what I did is, first of all, I had a board, at least leaders of the board that were big already attributed to conservation, especially the chair after Bill Barnett, Bob Graham. He was a, he and his wife Annie were incredible funders of conservation… Read More
We made the zoo a lot better. But it, it, it wasn’t, it was hard convincing her, but it wasn’t, it wasn’t hard convincing the board. And then, and then we had these galas that were all devoted to conservation. And I hired Bill Constant, he was my college buddy,… Read More
Ones that did not overflow, the toilets didn’t overflow. And, and the old ones had natural ventilation that didn’t go very well. They weren’t even air condition, you know, it, it was, it was a pretty rundown old city zoo, you know, in 2000 and in the year 2000. So… Read More
When the animal staff is crying that we have these horrible exhibits, you need the, the, these animals are in these horrible clo small areas in the back. The exhibit’s not, there’s no shade. So we had to address the animal issues first. At the same time I had to… Read More