And then eventually that grew into a program where they actually hired an individual to help do the pathology service. But, you know, because we were trying to cobble things together, he had multiple responsibilities that probably each could have used a full-time person. And two of those were down… Read More
But we started talking about the new dean at the vet school at Illinois, who was a pathologist by training and had worked, had been the head of pathology up at the University of Guelph in Canada. And they had a relationship with the Toronto Zoo and pathology was an… Read More
Yes. And Then in 1993, you leave Lincoln Park to work at Brookfield Zoo. Read More
That was interesting because I wasn’t, I wasn’t looking to go anywhere. I was happy at Lincoln Park, but one of the things, pathology, finding out why animals died, doing necropsies or animal autopsies is a critically important part of zoo medicine. That was part of my training at St. Read More
So you work at Lincoln Park Zoo till 1993?… Read More
And can you talk about what prompted your decision to change jobs?… Read More
And then I either push or watch for any opportunity to, to take that first step. The associate veterinarian, assistant veterinarian is a perfect example of that. Dr. Barbara Thomas at the time now, Dr. Barbara Baker worked with us as, as an extern during vet school, had obviously a… Read More
The goals was to have a more, more complete coverage. You know, the, to have, nobody would really think about having a collection that size, you know, be the responsibility of one individual. I mean, you know, as I mentioned, Mumby mumby took place later. I was on vacation. If,… Read More
And so it’s a very precise scientific and kind of involved way to determine percent body fat. And then we also experimented with some other, or took some other measurements so that we could come up with a considerably less complicated but equally precise way of doing it. And so… Read More
What were your goals?… Read More
Were you able to expand the veterinary staff during your tenure?… Read More
If so, what were they?… Read More
Were you able to have the freedom at Lincoln Park to develop medical initiatives?… Read More
We, I guess my approach had, had always been to, you know, you’re, you’re trying to answer questions. Sometimes that’s just a one-off, you know, what, what do I need to do with this animal to treat this problem or, or diagnose this problem, which is more the detective side… Read More
We would, we would rely on some of the folks from Northwestern back in the day to say, we’ve got this animal and it’s sick and we don’t know where to go with it. And part implied in that was, we also don’t have a lot of the equipment that… Read More
And she really went downhill, I think on a weekend day one time. And, and so she called some of the folks from Northwestern and it, and it wound up turning into a, a marathon procedure, both of diagnostics. They did laparoscopy where, or endoscopy where they’re putting the scopes… Read More
I think one of the things about the, the colleagues at Northwestern, there really was a, a battery of physicians that, as opposed to some of the things we’re dealing with nowadays where we’ve got a diagnosis, the animal’s been through the CT scan, we’ve done all this stuff, and… Read More
I think it was, it was an advantage because I think you, you didn’t, you didn’t need to, you didn’t need to go into the background of why, you know, what it, what will this problem, what will this problem turn into if we leave it alone, what are the… Read More
Those, those were all things that were part of his experience. So you could, you could kind of dispense with a lot of the more remedial parts of things that you would, you know, if I, if I was explaining the risk rewards equation to a keeper or a curator,… Read More
And, you know, I reminded Dr. Fisher multiple times and, and finally went out and said, we’re getting ready to start, so what, what’s the plan?… Read More