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Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 134

And with all due respect to the keepers we had and some of the old-time keepers we had decided that some of ’em would switch over to the park department and do something else, because the zoo was beginning to be more than they wanted to keep up with, I… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 135

And it was wonderful to see all these folks come out. In fact, the zoo got an award from the Shawnee County Mental Health Association. And that’s the things a zoo should do, in my opinion. But building a new building, bringing the animals in and to raise the money… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 128

So then we changed the concept to animals and man, same building, but we changed the theme, the graphics, the way we presented the animals to get the conservation element more in there and the impact of human population expansion in wild areas, on the types of animals that we… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 129

What other things did you wanna do for visitor services when you were director?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 130

Well, obviously our zoo, when I first came to town in 1963, the first thing we needed to do was clean it up. Second thing was, well, the first thing was to get the animal diets and general management up to a professional level. And then the next thing was… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 131

They have, I don’t know, 45 or 50 parks in the community. And here I was wanting the welder all the time. I wanted the plumber all the time. I wanted the painters and whatever, and we didn’t even have a horticulture, so we had to call in the Park… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 125

It was $250,000, which today is nothing, but in those days was a lot, especially for what we were getting. And was to be paid for by general obligation bonds, the city, and the city commission met every Tuesday night. So it was all set. Five commissioners agreed to approve… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 126

So I went back and said, if the zoo pays for this through admissions, can we build it?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 127

So that’s how the admission came about. We wanted to do an admission fee anyway, because I just felt it was better. We needed a perimeter fence. So you have to have a perimeter fence to get admission fee. And I just felt if people paid even mammal fee, it… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 122

So they were asking, when are we gonna the elephants, where are the elephants?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 123

So elephants became the key. Well, if you’re gonna do elephants, then you should, a facility for elephants, with oversized drains, thick walls, high roofs, whatever, then you should think about what other animals that are appropriate for your zoo in that category that need that kind of requirement. So… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 124

Four chimps or orangs, or maybe eventually gorillas. So that building initially was called, as lot or more, in those days, the Large Mammal Building, but 10 years later, we changed the name and the whole theme of the building to Animals and Man, but 1964, I came in ’63. Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 118

Well, cleaning the place up and everything, as we said earlier on but that all revolves around one species, this first big development, and that is somewhat of a controversial species these days. That species is elephants. I could tell if when people would ask me a question at the… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 119

Where are your elephants?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 120

If they were from Topeka, they would say, “When are we gonna get elephants?” They knew we didn’t have ’em. When are we gonna get ’em?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 121

Had it been my personal zoo, I would have built the rainforest first, because the concept for the rainforest was this geodesic dome, one structure with a ecosystem of live plants, birds and free-flight bats and free-flight animals roaming free, and visitor walks through. So you get multiple experiences. It… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 114

How’s this exhibit designed?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 115

It was drawing upon them and their perspective of zoos, their perceptions, their knowledge of the literature, and just communication. And I don’t know, it was just, and I learned so much every time I went. Took a lot of slides, kept a card file on things. That was a… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 116

What was the first big development you did at the zoo?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 117

What was your first big vision that you wanted to get accomplished?… Read More

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