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Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 378

As part of what you were doing with the facility, you were doing research at the Living Desert?… Read More

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Everything’s got a name. Okay, I can do that. So, we divided the thing up into all these little chunks, all the way down to even the sidewalk. We had done steps to education and for the education sidewalk to pay for the sidewalk, so we sold squares of sidewalk… Read More

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So, I had this older couple had come in to see me because they had sent me a $25,000 check out of the blue with no restrictions on it, and I had rung them up and said, “Wow, thank you. Wow, that’s a lot of money,” which it was in… Read More

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And so, and we built it. It was two and a half million dollar budget. And it had to come in for that, and I had to raise the money ahead of time and get it all raised. And I got it all raised, and we built it. And like… Read More

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Did you have certain donors who stepped forward that you offered the opportunity or was it a hard sell?… Read More

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I mean, where’d you get the money from?… Read More

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No. Well, it’s always tough to get the money, but I had this little booklet that I had made that I always kept current called the “Wish Book.” And it was just a three ring binder with some pretty pictures. Many of ’em hand drawn since they were wishes. I… Read More

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How’d you get the money?… Read More

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How was it received?… Read More

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It was certainly a milestone project for us ’cause it was the first big zoological project that we undertook, that was really for us of huge magnitude because until then we had the big horn on the hill. We had a couple of fenced enclosures for gazelles and Oryx and… Read More

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Yeah. You didn’t have much choice in it. I didn’t have much choice in it. So, I said, well, we’re gonna put signs in that fit our style of signage. So, the three or four main paths I had these signs, “A Tale of Two Cities,” was the sign. And… Read More

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Tell us about the Eagle Canyon project. Read More

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Was it a milestone for Living Desert, where’d you get the idea?… Read More

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Who designed it?… Read More

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Kevin needs one of these.” “Oh, okay, Kevin needs one of these.” “Can you help?” “Yeah, we can help with that.” And how important were local politicians in helping them build this vision?… Read More

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Not very, because again, we were always totally private, so we didn’t get any money from local politicians. And we were in two cities. That caused all kinds of problems because the cities hated each other, and therefore they occasionally would use us as a ping pong ball. And one… Read More

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And this was mandated, the signing, just as a quick follow-up, this was mandated by the Indian Wells?… Read More

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I mean, we went just all kinds of places and I didn’t, I just let them, I didn’t make it like, “You’re coming here to see this.” I just, we’re just going and we’d be walking around and we’d just start looking at things and I’d go, and notice how… Read More

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Now, speaking of people on the train, how is the development portion of Living Desert handled today?… Read More

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Is it still a one person operation or do you have a team that was- There was a team by the time I left. We were very much because of my nature, and I tried to hire people that fit that mold and if they didn’t fit the mold, they… Read More

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