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Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 344

The zebras, and the pandas, and kangaroos, I mean, I can go on and on and on. Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 337

And why did I come back?… Read More

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Because of what happened, I mean, I read about everything that happened with the red pandas and the fact that they had allowed Beck to resign and Seidensticker was moved out and up to research again. And the Post was raising holy hell with what was going on down there. Read More

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And I wanna know if you’ll come back to help me.” And I said, “Can I call you back?… Read More

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‘Cause I really have to think on this.” And then I hung up, Fran said, “Well, what are you gonna to do?” And I said, “Right now, I don’t think I would accept her offer to come back. I don’t need the job and it’s gonna be a real mess.”… Read More

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Well, I came back, but it was one of these situations where I’ll never forget, we were overseas and I knew Robinson had left and they were looking for a new zoo director. And I think at the time they were actually recruiting to look for a new zoo director… Read More

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So she’s on the phone and she’s saying, “So who’s the new director, what, who?” And I’m saying, “Who is it, who is it?” And she says, “Lucy Spelman,” almost fell over, it was kind of Lucy, who in the hell promoted Lucy Spelman from veterinarian to director, Larry Small… Read More

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He was secretary, the Smithsonian. So again, they made a selection of the zoo director for the National Zoo without any kind of competition. So, I mean, I basically just wrote off the zoo at that point. Read More

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No, it hasn’t. And I think part of the reason is that when keepers and curators alike, and including directors, when they were in the profession, I mean, even after the war, the Second World War, they got into the profession because they really wanted to work with wild animals… Read More

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And mean, I went into the profession because I enjoyed it. It was a challenge and it was fun. In 2007, I just looked at myself and I said, this is not what I expected to come back to. And it’s not something I’m gonna wanna stay in and I… Read More

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And in fact, if I can get into, do you want me to start talking about my second or have you got some more?… Read More

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Tell us about how you entered, you retired from the zoo and then came back?… Read More

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Because trying to get elephants in, you’re running into not only the federal government, but you’re running into the animal rights groups as well. And I don’t see that easing up anytime. I think it’s gonna just continue to get worse. So if you’re asking me why I wouldn’t wanna… Read More

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It’s kind of insanity in a sense to see what’s going on. Read More

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Well, how would you say that the role of the curator or even that of the general curator has changed since you entered the profession, has it evolved for the better?… Read More

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Because it’s not the same profession that it was when I became a keeper, but certainly not the one that I was in during the ’60s and ’70s where it was an awakening of what zoos were all about, and we could get the collections that we wanted. We were… Read More

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And where are you gonna get the elephants now?… Read More

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Well, and speaking of that, the zoo business has changed greatly in the years you’ve been at it, knowing what you know today, would you have entered the field when you did and would you enter it today?… Read More

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I would not even consider entering it today. Read More

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Because?… Read More

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