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Interview 4973 – Caption Index: 68

No Bill Hoff wasn’t in favor of me getting the job. He thought they should seek somebody from the outside. They never even had a search committee put together. I was the interim and the choice. Read More

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Did you seek any advice from anybody else or did they volunteer any advice for you on this new endeavor?… Read More

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Well, we had a- I had a distinct advantage in obtaining the directorship in Cincinnati, because the number of board members knew and had observed my operating of the zoo in the curatorial sense for a long time. We had a couple of board members that used to frequent the… Read More

Interview 4973 – Caption Index: 64

So Howard and I didn’t get along, and he left and I hired our first horticulturist, a professional horticulturist by the name of Dave Ehrlinger and Dave transformed that zoo. It was amazing what he could do with the landscaping. Often we would spend more for landscaping and exhibit than… Read More

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For this job, as director, did you jump at it or did you say, hmm, you know, what am I getting into here?… Read More

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Why was it possible for you, one of the youngest people that might aspire to that position to be hired at Cincinnati?… Read More

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Was it political?… Read More

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Did they see something in you?… Read More

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What was the process?… Read More

Interview 4973 – Caption Index: 56

I was general curator until Bill Hoff, Bill Hoff left for St. Louis. I was general curator, yes, until Bill Hoff left for St. Louis. I was placed in as interim director. Bill had an opportunity for the directorship following Marlin in St. Louis. So they put me in as… Read More

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What was the year?… Read More

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The year I became the interim director was 1968. Read More

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What was the charge of your role?… Read More

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When I came in, we had a lot of major problems with the keeper staff. To cite examples, they would go out on breaks and they would go to the tavern and they would get liquored up, come back to work, and I found one gentlemen teetering on the edge… Read More

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So we got keepers better pay, and they eventually saw what I needed and wanted, and we got rid of the bad elements in the zoo. It took some time. I think the first year I was responsible for 15 people leaving the keeper force, my first year of employment. Read More

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How long were you general curator?… Read More

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Tiger was sitting on the shelf and Clarence was inside changing the light bulb, figuring that we had been in the cage the day before, why couldn’t he?… Read More

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I gently had to say Clarence, and fortunately nothing happened to him, and the cat was probably as surprised as I was, but it was those kinds of experiences. But eventually I got a good crew together and we got things together and we got it moving in the right… Read More

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When you came, what was your-?… Read More

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My first title, I replaced an animal- The title at that time was animal superintendent. And I asked Bill to change the title to general curator. I preferred that title, which he did. I remember those early years, teaching these people to work with animals was another experience altogether. I… Read More

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