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Interview 7181 – Caption Index: 193

Were people calling you to assist or talk about cases that you may have been the pioneer in seeing or working in?… Read More

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Were you all of a sudden being courted a lot of places?… Read More

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But that, so be it, we headed on down the road and did what we felt was necessary. I had failures, I lost an elephant under M99 anesthesia. That was a heart breaking situation. And interestingly, the elephant that I lost belonged to a fellow by the name of Rex… Read More

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And this had a career in that area. And she and her daughter are going to be coming to the university, and I was gonna give them a tour of the veterinary school because the daughter is interested in becoming a veterinarian. So the cycle kind of takes some interesting… Read More

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Were these drugs that were coming on the market enabling you as a veterinarian to do cutting edge procedures that you couldn’t have done before in the earlier days?… Read More

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The development of these restraint agents is one of the key milestones in the development of zoological medicine. I have no qualms about that at all. We can now do things that we couldn’t do before, diagnostic work, surgical work. Surgery in a wild animal is no different than in… Read More

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Red Palmer, who was the kind of the developer of the capture gun, and he used nicotine alkaloids as his agent. That was the only one that was available then. Well, there were succinylcholine and curare were also used, but that was the only commercial one that was available. And… Read More

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First of all, you had to have a special license in order to even get the drug. I think probably the first time that I used it was on tule elk, and this was actually in a field situation with a free ranging elk. And I knew that it was… Read More

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But oftentimes I was the anesthetist and the surgeon on the things that I did. I had some graduate students that started working with some of these drugs. Then the things like a Rompun or Xylazine came on the scene, we used these, we gained some experiences. We shared experiences… Read More

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You don’t get close to a taper in terms of emotional closeness, but I could accomplish a lot with that animal by just going easy, stroking it and doing, I could do a rectal, not a palpation, but take a temperature and this sort of thing. So I think that… Read More

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What was your first experience using tranquilizers on animals?… Read More

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And was this a new technology when you entered the field or was it developed as you were already in the field?… Read More

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Well, the development of some of the drugs for chemical immobilization in the zoo field started in the 1950s. I didn’t graduate from veterinary school until ’55. And so, as I said with the chimpanzee, the only anesthetic agent that I had was a phenobarbital, which was a human sedative. Read More

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When you were working with animals, either the zoo or the circus, but the zoo, did you ever get close to any of them that you really have- You mean any of the animal extremists?… Read More

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No, at the zoo, the animals that you worked with, did you get close to any of them that some are patients, some are special patients ’cause they recognize you or they knew who you were in a positive way as opposed to a negative way?… Read More

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Well, we’re told that we shouldn’t become emotionally involved with any of our patients in veterinary medicine. That’s impossible because you do get emotionally involved. And I became specifically involved with some of the primates. We had chimpanzees at the Sacramento Zoo, and one of those chimpanzees hated me with… Read More

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It can’t throw feces through the glass, so he didn’t do that, but I could come in on a Sunday afternoon in a business suit and he would recognize me. And the people at the zoo often knew that I was in the zoo because the chimpanzees had some high,… Read More

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Were you ever the focus?… Read More

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Well, yes, I have been the focus of given situations. I mentioned at least one point where the media was there, and the animal activist jumped on that and said how terrible a veterinarian I was. I think in a lot of situations, I have been in political meetings where… Read More

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In thinking about different situations that transpired with working with elephants, I never personally have been involved in a close call working with elephants. But I remember one particular elephant actually in Wisconsin, in Madison, that Bill Lindsey and I, and he’s an alumnus essentially of Madison Veterinary School ’cause… Read More

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