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Was Warren alone in the building when this happened?… Read More

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Now, did you have to do some additions to this when the gorillas, as they were getting older, did you have to do something to teeth proof it?… Read More

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We didn’t have to make changes in the building itself because the building was built with that in mind that you would have what the gorillas needed at that time. We didn’t know a lot about keeping gorillas, as you can imagine in those days compared to what we’re doing… Read More

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So now the gorillas progress in age, did you know the female was pregnant?… Read More

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Earl Davis and Don Davis and Warren Thomas and I were all involved with the gorillas at the same time. Don and Warren, because he came on weekends, he was in veterinary school at Ohio State University and he had aspirations of being in the zoo business. So they decided… Read More

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No, there were not very many gorillas and certainly none that were breeding, no one had ever seen a gorilla breed in captivity, let alone give birth. Read More

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Now you built the great ape house or the primate building specifically for the gorillas, or they were put into a section that already existed?… Read More

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The great ape house in Columbus was a series of cages an indoor and outdoor facility for gibbons, orangs, chimps and hopefully for gorillas. Read More

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You acquired a male, a female, they all came together?… Read More

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The first gorillas at the zoo, how did that start?… Read More

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The first gorillas that came to the Columbus Zoo was a male, Mack and a female, Millie and a third gorilla, a female named Goma, I believe. They were young. I was put in charge of caring for them. In fact, I picked them up at the railroad station where… Read More

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There weren’t a lot of gorillas in the country?… Read More

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Or why don’t we think about that?… Read More

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In fact, Earl was in the stage where he could, he was beginning to do a master plan for Columbus after that thing that happened in Columbus that made Columbus Zoo what it is today. And that is the birth of the first gorilla in captivity. We’ll talked about that… Read More

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So you had, kind of backing, you had great apes, how did that start?… Read More

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Or did this allow you to come to him with maybe things you had been thinking about as curator?… Read More

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I was allowed to, I had the freedom to come to him and talk with him about how we should develop an exhibit or make a change in the collection. By that time, I had met some of the animal dealers, I had been involved with other zoo curators and… Read More

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So, it wasn’t unusual for me to do that, to go to Earl and say, can we do this?… Read More

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I was amazed at how well they took to my being promoted right past them, you know?… Read More

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And I think mostly they thought of me as one of them anyway. They were very happy for me to be able to progress. And I’m so thankful that they did that and they allowed me to be part of that crew, you might say that we had there at… Read More