I really hate to see that situation. The same thing exists with zoos and free ranging wild animals. There’s a conflict there ideologically and philosophically, but by the same token, they need to utilize what’s known in the captive situation to learn more about the wild situation and vice versa. Read More
But there’s a need for both, and we’ve just got to understand each other. Read More
Bill Lindsey invited me to do consulting work with him, and I was just willing to respond first to their calls and then become part of actually their team. And that was a satisfying work, we conducted some elephant schools for veterinarians and others that I was involved with. I… Read More
Dennis Schmidt, who is a reproduction specialist, is now kind of the head of their research program. He’s a university veterinarian for all kinds of domestic large animals. And there’s much that he has taught us. And he’s gone all over the world to learn new techniques for working with… Read More
How do you feel about circuses and their use of wild animals, and let me go a step further, this relationship with the zoological field?… Read More
Well, we didn’t have a canteen with us, there was no water around, we were in a desert area. And I said, “Will you accept artificial respiration if I have to give it to you?” And he said, yeah. And yet we thought about water source and we didn’t have… Read More
As a side, how did you get connected with circus and the Ringling brothers show?… Read More
I have been associated with circuses fairly early on in my career at the university when I was in a horse practice, because circuses would come to the university with their animals when they were in town. And again, I showed interest in some of these critters, so that I… Read More
And you couldn’t catch me up on a top of a six foot stepladder otherwise. But the point is we got the animal anesthetized, the helicopter, and with us in it landed, we did the physical examination and we put it in a sling. And we were going to attach… Read More
And he looked at me and says, “You have the antidote, don’t you Murray?” I says, “Don’t you bud?” And neither one of us had the antidote, and that’s a no-no in a mobilization, is not to keep the antidote with the active agent. Read More
And what were we gonna do?… Read More
In fact, the best thing I think that they can do is to do a internship, or work for a good small animal practice or a good mixed animal practice before they have delve into zoo animals. ‘Cause you don’t have the numbers of cases. Somebody may agonize over lancing… Read More
Were there any things that caught you off guard at the zoo that you weren’t expecting?… Read More
Catching off guard. That’s an interesting question. I guess I never had that mentality as being caught off guard because almost every situation that you dealt with was the first time or a second time. And it was just part and parcel to the business to roll with the punch. Read More
When you’d go to the zoo, did you have a set group of people?… Read More
Was it the students who would…… Read More
Did you have a retinue of people that would normally come or was it just you going to the zoo?… Read More
We always had a group of students that had selected the opportunity to do somewhat of a specialized experience with zoos. So these were motivated people, they weren’t every student in the veterinary school that came with me. Except for emergencies, there were always students, and there were always people… Read More
Obstacles. I don’t really think of these things being obstacles, because in the early days you never had all of the things that you would have liked to have had to accomplish your task. I guess I could answer that in a different way in that I was my sister… Read More
And then we use physical restraint and local restraint. And we did it. We didn’t have any of that when I went there and I’ve found that many cases, in fact, at the zoo one time we were working on a zebra and we needed a special device. And my… Read More