Well, I don’t think that they could or should do anything less than they should be doing more. I think that if zoos are going to exist in the modern world, they’ve got to apply scientific principles to the care management of people, and that includes the sciences associated with… Read More
Any interesting stories from Uganda about difficult or things that surprised you when you got there?… Read More
Well, cultural aspects were important to me to learn and that’s been a joy as far as any other places that I’ve been in the world to learn some of the foods, some of the cultures, some of the religions that exist there, and Uganda was no different. It was… Read More
And we said, “What are we gonna do?” And I said, “Well, the only thing we can do is back up slowly and get out of here.” And we did that, and when we got a little bit down the road away from the military outpost, and that’s what it… Read More
What was it like to incorporate the field work into the clinical practice, how did you manage it administratively?… Read More
Because I just did it. I integrated them by just doing it sometimes using the principle is better to do what you wanted to do and ask for forgiveness after you’ve done it, than to ask permission and be denied. So I worked with fish and game on their programs,… Read More
How often did you get out in the field?… Read More
Not very much ’cause I had teaching responsibilities. I was probably classroom teaching more than any other member of the faculty because I had all these courses. And at first I was the only person in this area. Today, there are probably 25 people that are participating in one way… Read More
It was in Makerere or Makerere University in Kampala in Uganda, it’s the capital. The country had kind of the famous situation with the Jewish people in Entebbe, and the rescue of those people that was after I left there. But I had some interesting experiences with… I knew how… Read More
I sometimes had hope that we could do somewhat the same thing with some of the student protests at some of our universities here, but that doesn’t go on our culture. But Uganda is at that in time was certainly a vicious dictatorship, but it gave me the opportunity to… Read More
It was interesting too, because the bathroom facilities were co-ed and those cultures. And so you run into different situations. Read More
Can you relate the four wives story to us?… Read More
(laughs) Well, the dean, when I first got there said, “You know, according to Islamic culture, you can have four wives.” And I wrote home to Audrey and said, the dean told me that I could have four wives. And we got a chuckle out of that. And when she… Read More
And when you were there, where was this teaching?… Read More
Where did you teach?… Read More
Just to my wife. Read More
And she would travel with you to these various locations sometimes?… Read More
Yes. Read More
A lot of the things that have happened to me over the years have happened because I was prepared to respond to a request. And certainly that was the case. I was on a sabbatical leave, working at the San Diego zoo with keeper training programs, and the dean of… Read More
And yet he was a very knowledgeable pathologist and he was very cooperative, and he essentially gave me a carte blanche to develop a clinical program. And I did that and I think it was quite successful. The school is doing well now, but perhaps one of the most important… Read More