I didn’t start the planning until I had finished the first major project was to have placed the store the food stuffs for the animals in large quantities, where I could buy in large quantities instead of going to the market every week at the wholesale market and buying a… Read More
So I had to get some of that accomplished before I could really think in terms of what do we do with the exhibit spaces?… Read More
And everybody who ever asked me, where do you live?… Read More
I’d say, wow, I live right next door to the dog pound. But the children, they loved it. They had all this area to walk in in the evening as well. They had already gotten used to the kind of life that the zoo directors kids have to get used… Read More
And of course, all of their friends thought, boy, this is great, you live in the zoo. And you’re right. That doesn’t really happen very often now in zoos in the United States. Now you mentioned you ultimately moved out of the house because you needed more of. I didn’t… Read More
Five children. Five children. Read More
How did they react to living, the kids, on the zoo grounds?… Read More
I mean, essentially it’s an estate, there’s no neighborhood, right?… Read More
No, there’s no neighborhood and it’s not a very good neighborhood around. In fact, the dog pound is right across the street from the house. Read More
Didn’t charge it, did they?… Read More
No, they didn’t charge me. Read More
So now you move in with your wife and two children?… Read More
The first time I went to the house to see it before I brought Phyllis and the kids down to San Antonio, I walked in and the whole dining room was a bird cage. He had built a bird cage in the middle of the house. And I thought, Phyllis… Read More
And I found that I got so much done that I would not have done if it were an eight to five kind of job. I would go out after I’d close up my office and just walk through the zoo. And because the zoo stayed open much later, I… Read More
So just a quick question, going back to the house, part of the job was they said, we’re gonna give you a place to stay with your family. Read More
Did you know him?… Read More
had you had conversations with him or?… Read More
I knew Fred Stark because I’ve visited with him at conferences. He knew I was also bird curator in Columbus, and we had corresponded in those days. Fred was not a person who corresponded much with his friends, but he did. Everybody knew Fred when it came to thinking in… Read More
So you got to give them your vision and they bought into it?… Read More
Yes, exactly right. They bought into what I was saying the zoo needed and that’s the way I worked with them for almost all of the years I was there. Read More