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Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 54

So Did the, here you are, young guy, did the older keepers resent you that you were an educated?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 50

So I got on the phone and I didn’t, I wasn’t successful, but I got on the phone and tried to do things like that. But he had me do odd, odd jobs or all research, find out who had this with that and, and that kind of thing. So… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 51

Was it a difficult job or in your opinion, was it a job of a lifetime?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 52

You mean being a curator or being a keeper, Being in the zoo, being a keeper with this curatorial experience?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 48

Well, as an animal keeper, I was a relief keeper. And so I, I, I kind of learned as I went around and as I might have mentioned earlier, and maybe not, but Warren Thomas, when he became director, created this position of curator trainee and for six months. And… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 47

Now you were doing many things at the zoo, You Had many responsibilities or what were your primary responsibilities?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 49

Nobody really has ’em but us in Phoenix and why don’t you see if you can trade some of those for a copy?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 45

And so there was, there was a very, very variety of keepers, curators were very open to, to talk to us. And you know, I knew I wanted to move up. I always, you know, I knew that I’d like to move up, but I was from California and I… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 46

So it was, but Los Angeles was a good experience. The collection was phenomenal. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 42

Yeah, yeah, the curator, they were very open and you know, again, I had all the interest in the world. And so I think they appreciated that. There were still a few keepers there that weren’t, in a sense, professional keepers. They might have done a great job of cleaning… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 44

He says, I don’t know what you call it, I just know what it eats. It was a pack, Rana. I mean there was a kind of a rare road in from others. So that’s kind of the level of some, and, but there were also some really smart, there’s… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 43

And I, I said to the keeper, I said, Don, what are you feeding?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 40

Chester Hogan. Chester Hogan took the job because he didn’t get, he really wanted the job at the convention bureau, but he got the job as zoo director and a nice enough guy. But he wasn’t a zoo director. And I don’t remember why, I don’t know if he wasn’t,… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 41

And did you, in your position there, did you interact with the director or curators?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 37

Well, let’s see, the zoo would’ve been about five or six years old. And it was a brand new zoo as you might remember. It was really, it wasn’t, we didn’t have zoo architects back then, you know, like we do now. So this was just a fairly famous architect… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 39

But I, I really moved around wherever they wanted me because I, again, I tried to stay in graduate school so I could have Tuesday and Thursday off so I could take classes, so, And who was the Jew director when you started?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 38

So all the exhibits were kind of the same. It didn’t matter if you were a badger or a serval or a be whatever, they were all kind of the same. And so it was kind of a boring type of extra architecture. But it was a good zoo. And… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 34

I thought I’d died and gone to heaven. Yeah, I took a test. I applied, I think I applied to other jobs too. San Diego. I applied to whatever jobs were around that time. You didn’t have the network that we have in a ZA now. There was no, you… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 35

And because I had been studying animals all my life, basically, I think I got the seventh best score, might have got the best score. But in, when, when in the city jobs, people got 10 extra points if they had been in the military. But, so I was seventh… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 36

And what type of zoo did you find when you got to Los Angeles?… Read More

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