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Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 133

Well, just because you bring it up, how would you describe your management style?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 132

I still had some of the same negatives and some of the same positives. You know, I, I’ve never been a good listener and my wife can tell you that, but, so I, at least I knew my faults and tried to deal with them as I could. Read More

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Oh, I, I, from the time I was probably in San Francisco, I read a lot of management books all, all my life. And again, as I mentioned, one time Pa Peggy Burkes at the San Francisco got us trained in management by objectives. So I, I knew about planning… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 130

Now when you come in, you have already started to think about philosophies of management or were you forming them as you were looking?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 129

But then he said he used it for pizza parties, for the staff and stuff, but there was no accounting of it. He just took the money and then went in. So a lot of people lost their jobs. And so it was all new metro parks, not so much… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 126

So was this by virtue of this building your first priority?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 128

Well, thinking of staff, I have to add, the reason I got the job in Vern Hardenberg, my boss got the job, nine people lost their job in scandal. If you wanna go to a new organization and be successful, have the people before you be crooks and be a… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 127

Yeah. Or or Oh absolutely. Are You thinking of other things?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 125

Took the crocodile exhibit instead of looking down into a pool, we went down and put glass in front. So you see the things underwater and I mean, so many changes we had in a restaurant to it. There was no elevator. We had an el public elevator to it. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 124

So really turned the zoo around. We did a lot of other things to turn the zoo around in that time too. But that was a, that was a biggie. And again, had, it wasn’t just me either. We had complete support from the park commission and from my boss,… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 123

Yeah, quite a bit. The rainforest was gonna change it. I don’t know if I knew that at first. The rainforest changed the whole thing. ’cause it was the first, I shouldn’t say totally, they had some okay exhibit. It was this first modern exhibit. It really had a tight… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 121

You know, the roofs were mostly on it. Long as story short, it took three and a half years to finish. But we made it really an acceptable exhibit. It went from $10 million to like 35 million or something at the time we finished. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 122

And so the, so you’ve seen an old time zoo when you come there?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 118

I mean, what kind of clothes do you wear?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 119

Is there restaurants? So what do you do?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 120

And three and a half years later we were married. So, and she’s from Ohio. And so that, that’s one of the reasons I stayed. And so I got there and, and yeah, there was a lot of, they had started this thing called the rainforest. It looked like it… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 116

This young lady came and sit next to me. So I started a conversation with her and I’m yaking away. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 117

What’s it like? How bad is the snow?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 114

And I did what I could do really. And I loved it. I loved Sacramento. I would’ve, if we could have done a little bit more expansion, I would’ve probably stayed there forever. I loved the city, I loved who I worked for. And, but it was just a small… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 115

And then they came a group of ’em, the Sioux Society president, the the Metro Parks director, the commissioner they came to, to Sacramento and interviewed me there and walked around the zoo and saw me interact with staff and stuff. And somehow they decided I was the guy. So… Read More

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