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Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 189

He had maybe just a pair or orangs and two pairs of gorillas. They’d switch the gorillas around and then the gorillas bred for them even though it was just a pair. The first gorilla was born I believe but that female that went to that woman in one of… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 188

It was a, well it started January of 67. It was a typical hodge podge collection. It had African elephants and Asian elephants, they had snow leopards and black leopards I think if I remember correctly. They had male chimps. Only male chimps. Kerry Baldwin the previous director did not… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 187

Yeah What was the zoo like, what was the collection like, what type of zoo was it that was in 1966?… Read More

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He was a character. I found an apartment in a week and moved into my apartment and changed my address and whenever anyone came to the zoo, from another zoo, I always made sure I met them. That was when I met Marvin Jones. He visited one time. Then I… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 185

So great. So to be a keeper in sanfrancisco you had to be a resident of sanfrancisco the city. He gave me a friends address. He said use this address when you go down to the cottage to fill out papers for the job. I knew I didn’t have any… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 184

His name was Ron Ruther. Why don’t you write to him. So I wrote Ron Ruther a letter saying that I was looking for a curator job and he very nicely said why don’t you come and see me. So I went up to sanfrancisco. (indistinct) Obviously she was teaching… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 183

1966, I was out of college and we used to have field trips over Fresno zoo. I had a professor who knew I was looking for a zoo job. He loved zoos and he actually applied for the job that Bill Conway got when Bill applied for a curator job… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 182

How did you get the job and do you remember the year you started?… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 181

Some zoos will survive without community support, like the Bronx zoo. The Bronx zoo, you see all this operating money from the city of New York. Everything it needed for operating was from the city. Any construction, the city would pay half of any construction of new facilities but I… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 180

How important is the community support and couldn’t a zoo or can a zoo survive without the community support?… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 179

Often there’s some person that can compete it doesn’t have to compete with the elephant in the movie. The elephant in the zoo is real and the real elephant always worked out when we were over the film. We were going to the film festival one year and they had… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 178

Oh I think that’s no question. we need them more than ever now. So many species are endangered. And how else are people going to get the message about what they need to do to protect the wildlife to protect the environment if we don’t have zoos. Can’t do a… Read More

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Who still needs zoos?… Read More

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If this is really what they want to do. Its hard work but its a wonderful career. Read More

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I joined the HDA before, wasn’t the HDA, national parks and recreation. Before I was out of college. I was writing this series about jobs and people were very helpful to me. Oklahoma city didn’t offer me keepers job. They were paying $3500 dollars a year, I was making more… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 174

Yeah. suggestions to those aspiring to make, They want to make a difference in the zoo world. What advice might you with your many years knowledge, like give to them. You’ve seen successes, you’ve seen failures. Yeah. I think again, do whatever you can shows what your interests are whether… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 173

What is it?… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 172

Read. Do you have any suggestions for those, along those lines aspiring to come and make a difference in the zoo world. Giving me a headache, um. Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 171

And tell them to get as much of these courses as you can. If you’re in an animal science major then take as much zoology as you can take a conservation course if you can. Take biology, microbiology. Get as much experience as you can in the classroom them try… Read More

Interview 17445 – Caption Index: 170

What I tell students is, what are you studying?… Read More

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