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Watched zoo operation from the outside, unfortunately. Just learning what to do, and what not to do, and so forth. And I read quite a bit. Read More

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You had that job, and ultimately though, you left that job?… Read More

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And is that when you traveled to the United States?… Read More

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It was easy to, at that time, it was easy to get into Tokyo’s Zoological Society, because it was a support organization, not the operator of the zoo. Now it is, but not that time. Read More

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While you were working for the Zoo Society, were you learning anything about the zoo profession, and were there any lessons there that you took away from this job?… Read More

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Was that in your mind?… Read More

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I wanted to, yes. Although it didn’t work that way, because right after graduation, went to Tokyo, and contracted tuberculosis. So ended up for two years in a sanatorium in the outskirts of Tokyo, and by the time I finally got out, having tuberculosis is almost like an ex-con in… Read More

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How did you get the job with the Zoo Society?… Read More

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Generalized large collection, from herbs, to birds, to mammals, all the basic crowd-pleasers were there. Elephants, great apes, large cats, bears. So, it was almost heavenly. Read More

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Did you think of this internship as a next step to getting into a paying job at the zoo?… Read More

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And so you just applied for this, and they said okay?… Read More

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Okay, come on up. Because it’s an unpaid position. We’ll furnish a room, probably because I knew the director by correspondence for so many years. Read More

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What kind of zoo did you find when you got there?… Read More

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How did you get it?… Read More

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Where did you go?… Read More

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I wrote to my childhood hero, and said just come on up. So July 1959, I went to Tokyo for the first time. Internship, you can put it in the resume, but basically it’s shadowing a zookeeper everyday, and also in 1960, I thought was such a glorious job, seriously,… Read More

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So what was your first zoo job?… Read More

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It was an intern?… Read More

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Internship, yes. Read More

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Ordinary elementary school, junior high, high school, and agricultural college in town. And that was, graduating in 1961, 15 years later, back in Oklahoma, I went to one of the regional universities, Northeastern Oklahoma State, for my master’s degree. And you mentioned a person at the zoo that you looked… Read More