And finally, when the Salk vaccine was about to be approved, the labs needing monkeys increased because there was competition, not just the Salk vaccine, actually, the March of Dimes set up their own monkey holding facility to supply other researchers, because developing this use of the monkeys was a… Read More
Well, the way the zoo got involved in monkey, in importing and large numbers was not the zoo per se, but the fact that so many monkeys were brought in for medical research, particularly for polio vaccines production. So in the mid ’50s, there was a big upsurge of interest… Read More
That money was available, and that was the money that, research money that Salk and others used to develop the vaccine. Now to develop the vaccine, they entirely relied on monkeys as the lab animal. Not just to develop the vaccine, and not just to test for it, but to… Read More
And can you tell me the story of that?… Read More
And can you tell me how it came about in your opinion, the efficacy of that type of use?… Read More
Actually, he was pleased about what we did and what he did get back. He sent some to Peter Scott in Britain and he raised a bunch and some came back from Britain, also to be released. The obituary when he died in the ’70s, 30 years later, I guess… Read More
Now I understand that you or was it the Honolulu Zoo, brought in primates for medical research?… Read More
Did he get his birds back?… Read More
He didn’t, did Herbert get his birds back?… Read More
What was the primary?… Read More
And now they’re over 1,000 birds that have been, that live on in the wild on three islands, the big island, you can see nene, you can drive right half hour from our house and see nene. They’re very trusting birds, and then they’re particularly abundant on Kauai, Kauai and… Read More
And it did, it worked. And you haven’t answered the primary question though. Read More
So we built the pens. I lent them some wire from old zoo pens that we had to tear down to build a parking lot. The post for the pens, they have areas up on the mountain. It was in a former CC camp. Nobody went there, it’s all deserted. Read More
Birds never got sick. They never caught no fungus, no germs up there, nothing. They all lived forever. They had babies, that was slow in the beginning, and we did have to later capture some of, a few once we knew more about what’s going on. We got started with… Read More
I said, “I will promise you this. If you lend us two pair of your birds to do a breeding program up here on the mountain, I will see to it as well as I possibly can, to be sure that we follow up your friend, Herbert Chip, I mean,… Read More
Peter had urged an environmental study, an ecological study of the birds. Read More
Why is the number so low?… Read More
Are they really gonna do what they’re gonna say?… Read More
And I could perceive, we were well aware that he’d be reluctant to give us a geese, not gonna just say here. So I was the youngest of that bunch, and I was 26 then. And I approached him and I said, “Mr. Shipman,” he hadn’t told us no and… Read More
And he lost a very large number of geese in that so he was down to only 11 birds. He’d had 40-something before. So he knew he wanted, he was torn between relinquishing some of his birds and still the need to perpetuate them. “Are these guys credible, that want… Read More