After all, a zoo is a collection of live animals, and behavior is what we talked about, so she and I co-wrote research papers, basically on ethology, the behavior. It’s the safest area. You don’t have to do physical manipulation too much to do ethology. So that was worthwhile. Read More
Who was, the director was?… Read More
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Read More
How did that come about, and why did you wanna go to that particular zoo?… Read More
It was quite large. At that time, modernization was needed somehow. So here comes a PhD. Gilbert Bose. And then I, as the curator, with a master’s degree. So modernization has begun. And one of the things I really liked was to coordinate research project with a local college. Bring… Read More
What prompted you to leave the Tulsa Zoo?… Read More
Larger job. Maybe a little more money. But larger collection. Read More
And your next job is at the Milwaukee Zoo?… Read More
Have you heard of Hediger?… Read More
That sort of thing. Sometime it works, most of the time it doesn’t work. People have independent minds. Now, at the Tulsa Zoo, as you mentioned, you got your citizenship. You got a master’s degree. Read More
How important was professional growth for your staff?… Read More
With the staff?… Read More
Yeah. At times, it’s difficult because they think that they know what they’re doing, but ultimately, you have a keeper class bringing speakers, including the zoo director, and so on, encourage them to, cannot force them to, but read books. At that time, it was before the internet, so just… Read More
At least I was very fair. And if you do the job, I may leave you alone. But if you can’t do the job, worse yet, if you don’t want to do the job, come to my office. Close the door. And have a talk. And just tell them you… Read More
You listen to me and prove yourself, or else. There’s the door. If you have any questions, fine. Otherwise, just get the heck out. Read More
And you could describe it, but how do you think your staff would describe your style, and over the years as you were seeing different zoos, did it change?… Read More
No. Basically, management of people pretty much remains the same, although new waves of those fresh off college campus, now more than half of them are women, and new waves arrive at the zoos, but people management basically stays very similar. Read More
So what kind of manager would you describe yourself as?… Read More
As I said, unionized keeper force. You have to really have a rapport with the section heads. Q3 section head. If you cannot get along, and you are not accepted by the section heads, you are sunk. And that’s not at times because of the personality differences. I don’t think… Read More
And can you describe your management style?… Read More