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Interview 16470 – Caption Index: 106

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And just as quickly as an aside, did you know George Foreman from Camp Park?… Read More

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Sure, yeah. Read More

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Did that help frame that?… Read More

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So in later years, were you able to use that philosophy when you had your own zoo, to build up rapport and understanding about the animals and the care of your staff?… Read More

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Well, I think I tried to build a little pride in those guys, those kids. Then finally we were able to go into parades, the California parades with our horses and things like that. That built a lot of camaraderie and build a lot of professionalism with these children, with… Read More

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What was one of the most unusual things that happened with your kids and you during that tenure when you were running the animal care and farms program?… Read More

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Well, I’d take the kids to ranches and things like that. We’d castrate horses and cows and all that stuff. Then I’d take them to Oakland Zoo and meet the two directors there and things like that in Oakland. So if there was no animals, then I made sure there… Read More

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And based on that again, were there any life lessons that stood you in good stead for your future endeavors in the animal world, aside from keeping people in line?… Read More

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Yeah, Camp Parks. Read More

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This was in California?… Read More

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If they did something wrong, I’d ride after them with my horse, I’d ride right into the barracks to get them on this horse like a Spaniard going into to South Florida. So I kept things going pretty well in order doing those things. Read More

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Then they raised those babies up, then we slaughtered them, and I showed them how to slaughter and dressed them. And we sold it to the cadre, the teachers at the Job Corps, we sold that stuff, eggs. Then I got Ward Bond’s brother, I was horsey then, I loved… Read More

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Because I had some agricultural experience, of course, living in farming and animals and things. So they put me in. I got this job and I developed the Job Corps Agricultural School. I’m not a qualified teacher, but I had all these kids and I found out these kids, they… Read More

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How did you get involved with that job?… Read More

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They didn’t know how to hold a fork, and they scalped those dinner tickets and things. So those kids were pretty smart. Read More

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I think my next job was… Because 1965, you are working with Litton Industries. That was Job Corps, that war on poverty during the Johnson administration. Well, I developed a, this thing was a war on poverty and it was somewhat good and somewhat absolutely a waste. But they’d put… Read More

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What’s your next job?… Read More

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– So now you leave the university?… Read More

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