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And I start to think to myself, “Why does this guy need me?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 141

What does he want me here for?… Read More

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And you know it was, it was a big place, and it was a nice farm, you know, big, giant farm, big collection of hoof stock, big, you know, West Northern hoof stock. You know, muskox, caribou, different kinds of caribou, woods bison, and you know, lots of things like… Read More

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And that’s a different kind of a thing too, because you would then have to rely on money coming through the gate primarily, because these other zoos, you were getting money from the city and getting money from foundations and they didn’t have one up there. So I thought this… Read More

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And so I would say to him, “Oh, we can do this.” And I’d show him on drawings and he’d say, “No, no, we’ll do this, we’re gonna do this.” And then every time I’d say that, what we could do, he’d say, “No, we’re gonna do this,” you know?… Read More

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What happened?… Read More

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Well I one day was reading the, you know, the newsletter that came out from what was called then the AAZPA, and I saw that there was a job opening for a curator at the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago. You wanted to stop, now wait a minute. You went… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 135

You’re, how’d you find out about that first job?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 136

Okay, I did well okay, when I left Omaha Zoo, at Omaha Zoo I made, when I was at the zoo in Omaha, I made contact of people who used the zoo, like Omaha Zoo, as a place to ship things from to other places, believe it or not. There… Read More

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So you were getting experience not only in mammals, but birds and reptiles?… Read More

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Not much reptiles, although we did have two, we did have some, the big giant tortoises. Not Galapagos, but you know, the others. There really wasn’t anything else, reptile wise. So now you have been at Omaha Zoo from ’66 to ’68, you’ve left the zoo. Read More

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How did you develop plans for the next phase of your career?… Read More

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As general curator at the Omaha Zoo were there things that you were learning then, layering on, that would help your understanding of the working of a zoo?… Read More

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Well I think, yes I think so. I mean it’s, I had more to do with, I had more to do with budgeting than I ever did there at Oklahoma City certainly. And things like that, and personnel problems. I mean, personnel issues, certainly. Personnel challenges. Okay challenges, whatever, personnel… Read More

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And how to manage a collection, ’cause I was managing a collection, even though I was also doing the grunt work too, for most of the time that I was there. Which once again I didn’t mind doing, I liked doing it. Read More

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And so we went down there and they said, “Well there’s not, we can’t give you a test.” And I said, “Yeah, why is that?… Read More

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I’m perfectly willing to take it.” And he said, “Well, we have no evidence a crime was committed.” I said, “Oh, okay.” That was the end of that. So I have my, also and that may be my own fantasy, but I have a feeling that somebody from the society… Read More

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And they said, “Oh yes.” And he, they gave him my name and Leroy Thomas. Well we didn’t live actually, in the city of Omaha. And they called us up and said they wanted to talk to us. And we said, “Hey great, we’ll talk to you.” So we came… Read More

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And I remember talking to them about it and saying something that, “Well the male cheater was surplus, you know?” And they said, “Well how would you know it’s a male cheetah?… Read More

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We didn’t say anything about it.” And I said, “Because that’s the only one they would’ve experimented with, because they already had one, they didn’t need two in fact, so that’s why they would do it.” And the guy said, the detective said, “Well why, would you take a lie… Read More

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