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Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 159

But there was this, you know, his famous saying, he goes, “I couldn’t agree with you more,” (laughing) you know?… Read More

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And that would take away any kind of a negative thing that anybody had to say. I mean, it really would, it was just a wonderful, a wonderful saying, which I found myself using when I went to, I was in San Francisco, because it really is. You’d have members… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 161

But even if they weren’t happy, they weren’t saying they weren’t, you know?… Read More

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And there was nothing bad with that. That’s actually a good way, that’s actually the way you should be. That’s actually the way you should be. And frankly, I’m gonna have to say, that was the way that honestly, it was very difficult for me to be. And that that… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 158

His calm, very calm, quiet, demeanor was the total opposite of Warren Thomas’. So as Thomas was a mentor to me on the animal end of it, I think Les Fisher was a mentor to me on the handling people. Give me some quick examples, if you can think of… Read More

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How would you describe his style and your relationship with him?… Read More

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Well his style was very, was reserved, I would say. Not in a bad way, not in a bad way at all. He was, he was friendly, most assuredly. Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 156

Do things for you, he would, you know, I mean there was, but there was no question that he was the director of the zoo and you weren’t, you know?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 151

Well George Irving yes, George Irving was there, but there were two curator positions though. And George Irving was still one curator. Yeah was one, was one of a sort. I mean, George had been there for many, many years and he, really George truthfully was a timekeeper. Basically, he… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 152

What kind of zoo did you find when you got there?… Read More

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Well it was a zoo that had traditionally had a good collection, good collection of animals. And traditional old, you know, an older facility that was a very, very popular place with people, with the citizens of Chicago. And needed, could’ve, needed a lot of improvement I think, to come… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 149

Yes, this was for general for curator, yeah. General curator. But here was a general curator when you arrived. Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 150

George Irving?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 145

About two or three days. (laughing) So now you’re looking for a job. Yeah, now I’m looking for a job. Go back to Omaha, and looking for a job. And I, like I say I saw the, well I was still getting the newsletter. Read More

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I was a member still of the AAZ, what was then called AAZPA, which it’s called now, I have no, I think it’s the AAZA, is that correct?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 147

Anyway, and there was a job section, you know, and I looked, and there was Lincoln Park Zoo, and they were looking for a curator. And I said, “Hey, this might be, you know, that’s a good place, that’s a good collection, it sure is, and I’ll look into that.”… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 148

At any rate Les picked me, which I was, you know, and I said, “Hey, that’s great.” Was this for general curator?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 142

He’s got his own ideas surely.” And he was a private, you know, he had done it, give the devil his due. He had built that zoo outta nothing. He had built that zoo out of wrestling. He was a professional wrestler. He built that place out of his professional… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 143

And so my career at the Alberta, but he did send, I did work one or two days there, cleaning up and feeding the muskox and doing stuff like that. He did get me to do that for him, but that was okay. But once again, I loved it. I… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 144

How long did that stint last?… Read More

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