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Let me ask, before we go to Africa, let me ask the question about your zoo director for a Lion Country in California. You have people now, you’re the director, you have people working for you. Read More

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Do you remember that?… Read More

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If they did that, you would take them to Africa for their laboratory classroom. At that time, we’d spend three weeks in Africa, and I was with the first group in ’73. We spent half the time in South Africa and half the time in East Africa. This is in… Read More

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One of the great things with Pat at Lion Country Safari, so many things, but one of them was that he was, the drug companies had asked him to do experimentation, it was in the early stages of a lot of immobilizaton drugs. Pat had the opportunity of working with… Read More

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Lion Country was a- Corporate. Lion Country was an innovator of the open drive through parks. Lion Country was owned by South Africans. Harry Schuster. Harris Schuster, Monte Copel and one other guy, and they were south Africans and they had a line park in South Africa, they developed one… Read More

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What kind of place was it?… Read More

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I was zoological director. Zoological director initially, and when Bill left, you were promoted to vice president of all of these safari parks. Three parks. So let’s talk about, so you go there as zoological director to California. Tell me about Lion Country. Read More

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I was offered a vice presidency, wasn’t I?… Read More

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So what position were you offered at Lion Country?… Read More

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But pat was at Lion Country during that period of time. Read More

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They hired, I can’t even think of his name now. And he’s still in the zoo business, but I cannot think of his name, anyway. During his tenure, Pat’s replacement’s tenure, the park finally didn’t make it, they always had huge financial problems. The St. Regis property was beautiful, but… Read More

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You interviewed the fellow that would replace you, and he was a friend, remember?… Read More

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Yeah, he liked me. And he said, “Do you want to come to Lion Country?” I said, yeah. And he told me how much he’d pay me, and so it was a good challenge and a step up for me. All of the people that were on Pat’s board at… Read More

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So in your conversations with him at that time, he liked you?… Read More

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And he offered you a much better salary. Zoological Society was not able to pay much. Read More

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So, where was I?… Read More

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Because a fellow by the name of Bill York was bringing the Northern white rhino, the only one in North America, bringing it through to take it to San Diego Zoo. That’s right. To mate up with a female northern white rhino. So he came through and he stopped over. Read More

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What happened?… Read More

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Why did you leave?… Read More

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Now, you’re at the zoo, you’re running it, you’re trying to build it, but then why did you leave the zoo, the Northwest Florida Zoological?… Read More