You know, to, to break down some of these barriers and stereotypes or, or, or new exhibits. It’s, it, I think they inspire us, but in, but other people are critical because they judge ’em in their, they judge ’em by in, in our time when they should be judged… Read More
What are you gonna do in today’s world?… Read More
And, and then Carl Hagenbeck, you know, and 1907 opened up this incredible zoo, no bars, you know, you could just see animals that, that set the state. These guys were pioneers. And, and now, now we said, well, we do things so much better now. No, but he did… Read More
I mean, you can’t, it’s difficult to, to judge. And, and Conway today would have a lot more trouble with HR stuff and stuff. ’cause the way he, he, it was Conway’s way or the highway. And you can’t do that today. Now. Oh, well, you know, now you’re gonna… Read More
Well, back then, everybody was a bad guy then. You know?… Read More
Well, you’re talking about history. And I think, I like the phrase, I don’t know who said it. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it has the same rhyme. If we look back in human history, we make the same mistakes over and over again. Just different players. And so it’s… Read More
I, I’m a firm believer that you need to appreciate these people. Instead, we, we question them and we judge them by today’s standards. And that’s a big mistake. Like Thomas Jefferson had slaves, so he’s a bad guy. Read More
Do you sacrifice an animal so that the species can be saved?… Read More
Yeah, in some cases you do. But we’ve, we’ve, we’ve educated the public in a way that we care about each individual animal and they’re special. And yet we wanna manage as a, you know, as a group. And so an individual’s not that important. It’s, it’s a conundrum that… Read More
How important is it for people within the profession to be what I would call students of the game, to understand where these people are writing seminal papers?… Read More
You know, that, that, that’s, that’s even a tougher argument than an elephant, you know, having an orca. But if we didn’t bring orcas into captivity and SeaWorld years ago, nobody would have the respect for them that we have now. And the love for them. You know, so, so… Read More
You can’t, why sacrifice?… Read More
I mean, what, is there a tank big enough to have a killer whale?… Read More
But that said, how do you keep a orca in a tank?… Read More
I’m talking, you know, hoofstock, mostly in large mammals, I think, I think that can work for certain things, other animals. It’s just not gonna work. Killer whales, you know, orcas, that, that whole SeaWorld thing and blackfish it, it, it, it’s, it was not handled right. I think there… Read More
Is there times when it justified to bring animals out of the wild for zoological institutions?… Read More
And I think that would work better. And then those animals could go back after they have a couple, maybe they, maybe they give birth, you breed them there. And then the generation born inside the habitat, you could send those to other zoos. ’cause they’re probably better off than… Read More
I think there’s definitely cases that warrant taking animals from the wild, especially rescue cases. I remember c we’re all trying to rescue walruses that had been abandoned, that were gonna die. But they have to go through so much approval process and permits the animal’s dead or, or, or,… Read More
But that, that to me, it, to me, it’s not conservation breeding. It’s, it’s breeding So that other zoos that we have animals to, that we have animals in the future, because we’re probably not gonna be taking them out of the wild unless we, unless we can take the,… Read More
I don’t know what conservation breeding is. I don’t know what, what that term is. I don’t use that, that breeding for conservation sounds like, well, we’re breeding so we can put them back in the wild. What, what is, you know, I, I just don’t use the term, so… Read More