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Interview 30880 – Caption Index: 52

And, and you were selling, what were you selling?… Read More

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That was part-time or full-time?… Read More

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Or I had to go in with spider monkeys and clean them out and things like that. You know, it was just not very, a very impressive zoo at all. Who was the director of the zoo That at that time was Craig McCowen. And he had started as a… Read More

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Oh, that was, that was weekends. ’cause I was just a 16-year-old kid. Yeah. Read More

Interview 30880 – Caption Index: 47

Aside from the WPA building, what kind of zoo did you find?… Read More

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Old WPA chain link boxes along that, you know, that, that Old Lion house, I mean, we’re talking chain link boxes with very heavy chain link that housed adult bears. Okay. Concrete slab chain link boxes. You just hose it down with a two inch fire hose or the monkey… Read More

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Right. You know, behind the head, support it just Right. Transfer it over into a little holding area. Did that with the other one, cleaned it out, put it all back together. And he, he was, you really are stubborn. I mean, he, he couldn’t dissuade me at all. And… Read More

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Boy, I was making big money working. I got to work at the zoo. I wasn’t taking care of animals, but I was at the zoo doing concessions. And so that was so important for me to be making money and working at the zoo, even though I wasn’t doing… Read More

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This was back in the seventies when everything was wild caught back in the seventies. Nasty, wild. Caught with big O teeth on him. And he would say, clean that out. He said, I’ve never handled that. I’m like that, figure it out. I said, okay, I’ll figure it out. Read More

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He couldn’t. And I said, does you know any other volunteer work?… Read More

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He says, oh yeah, you should go out and help Charlie out in the goat area right now. Well, he knew that Charlie had, pardon me, a deceased goat in one of the barns out there that he had a haul out of the barn. And he was sticking me… Read More

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So picture the old ancient WPA zoo building Lion house stone, the cages upstairs, you know, the cage with the chimpanzee in the corner and the cage. That’s, you know, eight by eight by eight. Okay. And the concrete steps that go down past the, the chimp cage and the… Read More

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My mom would take me to the zoo. I’d have them let me into the basement. I’d take, I changed the water and clean it all, scrub it all out and everything. And just kept doing that. He could not dissuade me from volunteering at the zoo. Okay. Read More

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Even if it was, as you started at Potawatomi as a volunteer in 1972, I knew in sixth grade I wanted to be a zoo guy. I knew in because of all the books I was reading and, and going to zoos and, you know, my folks would take me… Read More

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Or what, what started you to say, I wanna work at a zoo?… Read More

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They didn’t no volunteer program. I was annoying. I was annoying to him. He didn’t wanna put up with me in any way, shape or form. And then the Northern Indiana Herpetological Society, the guys, we convinced them to let us put a display in the window of the Lion… Read More

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When, when did you really decide you wanted to work at a zoo?… Read More

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Seuss fan, you know, Tracy and I have four Lorax prints hanging in our bedroom. Okay. Because of the Lorax. Jim Henson with the Muppets was always an inspiration. Okay. So, and Gerald Durrell, you know, with the Jersey Wildlife Reservation Trust. So I just read a lot and got… Read More

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And did you have any aspirations about being very high up on the food chain?… Read More

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Mr. Smith was my high school biology teacher. Okay. And he just, he really liked me, even though I was one of his worst students. Again, I microbiology just, you know, it, it just D-N-A-R-N-A and you know, it’s just, it never clicked in my little brain. Things that I… Read More

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