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Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 195

I honestly don’t remember. I’ll have to say that I don’t remember really at this stage. I think we introduced her, I’m pretty sure we did. When we talked about that first gorilla birth, it obviously brought emotions back to you about that. Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 196

But why? I mean, it was the fact that- Well it was something that, you know, you were in, that’s the objective I think of all of us, was the objective, and probably, I’m assuming is still the objective, was to breed these animals, you know?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 191

And one of our keepers was with them, I wouldn’t say, was it 24 hours or, I think it probably was, basically with that animal 24 hours, and she survived. And it was an amazing, amazing thing. Now go back to that first gorilla birth, Kumba. She was taken from… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 192

Then what eventually happened to her?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 193

Was she reintroduced to her mom?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 188

Yes. Lenore- Lenore’s baby, right? Yeah, yeah. And somehow or other, she got into, Lenore may have got into a fight with the male, or perhaps she somehow way or other did abuse the baby. And the baby was in a real bad, a real bad child abuse situation, truthfully,… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 189

And it was early in the morning when someone, it was one of the keepers, maybe?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 190

Pat Mulroy. (chuckling) Yeah, a keeper named Pat Mulroy came, and he was working in the building at the time, came in and, “Something is wrong, you know, with the gorilla baby.” And we ran in there and sure enough, there was just this baby laying there, like she had… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 185

Can you relate when one of the gorillas, Patty, sustained an injury and your involvement?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 186

Oh yes, yeah. There, all kinds of things go on with a collection, and the more animals you have in it, is the more things will go on. And she was, she was her mother. Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 187

She was her, wasn’t she with her mother?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 182

She held it to herself. But I remember that we never, you couldn’t, it was very difficult to see the baby nursing, whether it was nursing or not. It was very difficult because she held it so tight and on, you know, around her. And she had her arms always… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 183

And the big disappointment really of that was, that whole incident, was that she didn’t continue to take care of it very well. And it was, in a way it’s not surprising, you know, I don’t know, ’cause I don’t know how much, we don’t know of course how much… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 184

I think reluctantly, everybody took it away. We took it away and took it down to our nursery, which Was, you know, really the only thing you could do. I mean, honestly it was, she was handling it very badly. Like she was holding it casually by one hand, which… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 179

And it’s actually a fairly, a real good picture, actually. It’s famous, kind of a famous picture of him leaning down and listening, you know, checking her out. And he didn’t think anything of it. ‘Cause he figured, “Well, they’re not gonna send me into a place with a dangerous… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 180

It happened at 5:00. Okay, well I’m glad if it did- It was a staff meeting, they had all these people watching and she had a long labor. Yeah, she did. Yeah, Mumbi had a long labor and there were a bunch of people there, and there were staff people,… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 181

I was taking pictures. Oh, (laughing) so was I. I was taking pictures too, but she started- It was kind of a culmination- Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh God. It was a, it’s something that I know that Fisher wanted, Les Fisher wanted very much. And he had been… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 176

Happened at 5:00, they had a giant group of people there. You know, I don’t remember that. But we knew she was pregnant obviously, and we had, Mumbi was the female’s name. And we had a pediatrician, I guess. That’s the, that we, they were, I guess a pediatrician. Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 177

Obstetrician?… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 178

No, he’s a pediatrician I think, come in, and we just told him to go, and he just walked in the cage. We didn’t even tell him to do it. We opened the door, we wouldn’t go in with him. He just walked in the cage. Mel Bailey. Okay, yeah. Read More

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