And then there’d be bidding for it. And it was kind of light lighthearted at times. It was fun, it wasn’t to have to be serious. You know, I was raised, if I shook my hands with the super professional, that was my word, we would do the deal that… Read More
So, that bothers me. And like, I, yeah, we used to have, there used to be auction’s not the word. Read More
They used to have a, at the conferences where zoos would get up and surplus, get up and say, I have a kangaroo to sell, anyone interested?… Read More
I don’t think I would do it over again if I was just starting, and maybe it’s because how I was raised in zoos. I mean, zoos have become so serious. And I still like a little fun. I used to get a kick out of the, AAZPA before it… Read More
I think the basic question is, if I were to do it over again, would I do it over again?… Read More
I’ve had this question asked to me before and I guess I’ve answered in different ways. Read More
Is there anything that, we haven’t covered that you’d like to mention about zoos, your career, things that were most memorable?… Read More
Is there anything that we haven’t covered?… Read More
We talk about a dozen subjects over the course of the day. Read More
No, they got together. They were okay together. Yeah, yeah. Read More
Did they ever have an opportunity to get together or never?… Read More
Well, I mean, it didn’t work out for a different reason. I mean, Kelly, unbeknownst to us came in and had TB and she was one of the first elephants with TB, since then, is a more common occurrence than that. And Kelly was a good animal, we had to… Read More
Why’d you think it would work?… Read More
Not well. Read More
Well, I mean, that was the beginning of protective contact. We weren’t going in with them. I mean, we wound up modifying the elephant house with shoots and there were modifications, the doors were changed, electronic doors were put in, there was a shoot that was put in, it wasn’t… Read More
Kelly as a companion, how did that work out?… Read More
Elephants are elephants. By their own evolution and their own hierarchy, they survive by dominance. And, historically think that man was managing elephants through do, I mean, zoos took, whether it be elephants in the wild in India, how they were worked or on surfaces, used those methods on their… Read More
Why do you think Tinkerbell acted the way she did?… Read More
Well, she actually attacked, two people got hurt with her at that time. They were moving her, Tinkerbell was, there was no protected contact in those days. We’d go in with the animals and move them and then work with, and two people went in, they were doing a medical… Read More
Can you kind of tell me what happened?… Read More