I am going to, I am going to take responsibility and, for getting those pandas. Because one day, when we used to do programs, we did a lot of, the Zoo Society used to do programs for the membership, at the Academy of Sciences in Golden Gate Park. You know,… Read More
Was that your idea to kind of- Well, that was after the pandas, and we had a very good relationship after getting those, after getting the pandas. We had a good relationship with them, and that was another thing that We got from them. Tell me the story of the… Read More
How did it evolve?… Read More
Well, I’ll tell you. Read More
All these cages were tall, and you could see in from a double, two levels. So we did a lot of that, that’s what that was. And, it was a way also of reinforcing the idea of evolution and our relationships to the primates, without saying a word, having to… Read More
Not a sign there, don’t say a word, because you’re not gonna have to. Everybody that sees this is gonna sit down next to this guy, and they’re gonna know. (laughing) They’re gonna know what you say, they’re gonna know what the story is, and that’s exactly what happened. And… Read More
Did you reach out to the Chinese?… Read More
What were you trying to do in that exhibit that hadn’t been done before?… Read More
The primate center?… Read More
Well we were, well one of the things we did was we integrated a whole bunch of interactive displays, educational displays, with the live exhibits. There was a whole bunch of them in the, you know, that people could go and use, interactively use, and find out things about all… Read More
Well, her husband built those homes (laughing) and he made an awful lot of money, and he died and he left the money to her, and she liked primates, she actually liked primates. She had primates, monkeys of her own. And she said she wanted, she gave a million dollars… Read More
This must have been- Go ahead. And it filled, it fit into the master plan, you know, certainly. But your specialty, or you like primates, so that must have been- Well but, I know- Well, it was on my mind, but the cats were also on my mind because they… Read More
What was going on that you started thinking about that?… Read More
We needed, we needed facilities for all of the apes and the monkeys, and I mean, in a full way. And there should be, you know, not these, all these same cages, that it’s, you know, it’s really silly. So they went, the Society was soliciting funds, and there was… Read More
You know, he built all these homes, and you may have heard a old, sort of a modern folk song, “Houses made out of ticky-tacky,” did you ever hear that?… Read More
And Sulak was, Michael Sulak was in the office when this happened. We opened up the exhibit to the public and people came lots. And there was a guy, a man, that came to the office and he knocked on the door. And you know, we said, “Come in.” You… Read More
I didn’t know the guy, you know, and that was good. ‘Cause he had said that, “Well, I’ve been going to the zoo ever since I was a little kid, and nobody ever did this for the animals.” So that was a great, that made me very proud. Now this… Read More
How did you start to form that idea?… Read More
Well, the golden monkeys we brought in went into the primate center, that was done by that time. They were, they went into the Primate Discovery Center. Well then let’s- Okay, let’s talk about that. Read More
How did that vision for the Primate Discovery Center come about?… Read More