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I mean, they wanted to, but what could they find out was bad?… Read More

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And so it was, and we did, we sent them to China. Read More

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What was your philosophy though in handling the demands of these type of donors with the best interest of the animals?… Read More

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Well the donors always wanted the best interests of animals, that was never a problem. I never had, none of these people were donors anyway, who were complainers, they weren’t donors of anything. They never gave anything to the zoo. So there’s no problem. Read More

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So they really, you know, and this is a whole bunch of other people, because they were saying, “We can’t send our San Francisco orangutan to China.” And you know, that’s all I need to hear, I can’t do it. Read More

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They’re gonna go, you know?… Read More

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But it was the right thing to do. It was the right thing to do. I mean, it was a typical zoo move. And we did. Read More

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Oh, the ASPCA got involved in it, to make sure they were treated humanely, as if they would know how to treat them humanely actually, as a matter of fact, but they, (laughing) they were, and the guy says, the truck driver who, the guy driving the Humane Society truck… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 425

Well yeah, I would say yes, I would say yes. But you know, we had been improving a lot anyway, and we were getting some, we got some very, very good press. As I told you about the gorilla exhibit, we got very good press on all the new things… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 426

And when you talked about good press coming because of the gorillas and the exhibit and the positiveness of the pandas, in 1988, the orangutan Josephine did cause a little bit of a stir. Tell us what happened with- That was, yeah, that was a deal with the, our sister… Read More

Interview 12600 – Caption Index: 427

She can’t be, you know, moved away, and just all kinds of stuff. And these are typical, this is a typical San Francisco thing, that there are people that get up in arms about certain things and they can’t, you know, they have no expertise whatsoever at all. But the… Read More

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Did the pandas help the funding for the zoo overall?… Read More

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Were people more willing to give funding?… Read More

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Well no, not really. But I did take some people in, and in fact, this is a real funny, I think it’s an amusing story. There was a store here in Sonoma, a big supermarket, who I used to go to this supermarket and they knew who I was. And,… Read More

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Was the, did the Zoo Society pay?… Read More

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I mean, there was obviously expenses to keeping the pandas, the exhibit work and just the things you had to do. Yes they, yeah- Was the Zoo Society coming through with all the money, or was it through the- Yes, they did. No, no, the city gave some money, but… Read More

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So if you were going to mentor some zoo director who was thinking about this type of exhibit, what would you be telling them?… Read More

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Well be ready for a lot of crap from your other zoo directors who are jealous of you. That’s what I would say, ’cause that’s the deal, I think. When all these people who are so, you know, and who have done plenty of other things, you know, that were… Read More

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Did you have a lot of people who would become your friends all of a sudden, to be able to see the pandas?… Read More

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I knew all the guys there and I went to vet and I said, “look, how sick is this panda?… Read More

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