Yes my parents always, my father actually took me to the zoo, to zoos in New York all the time. I mean, I was with, going to the zoos there, I mean really and truly, I would say at least once or twice a month. And I went to the… Read More
Were you interested in animals when you were growing up in grammar school, or high school or?… Read More
Yes, I was always very interested in animals, yeah. Did you collect them, did you have- I had a toad once, I had a toad, (laughing) but my mother wouldn’t let me keep it. That’s what the whole problem was so, never had a dog when I was a kid. Read More
A little, one of those little red-legged ones, you know, that you buy in the dime store?… Read More
And what was your childhood like?… Read More
What kind of activities did you do as a kid?… Read More
Well by childhood, what do you mean? (laughing) What age?… Read More
Okay, my name is Saul Kitchener, and I was born March 22nd, 1938, in Passaic, New Jersey. Read More
Only time having a problem was first two wild horses were born. The stallion used to (indistinct) protective. It was just like a day old. (indistinct) Then took him to the hospital and took care of him. And so we decided that we (indistinct) there was little time. But he… Read More
Then I guess he didn’t know any better. He got the horses together and we got them bred. But he had a way with the deer, with Bison, with horses, they trusted him they would follow him anywhere. The pere David deer were so flighting (indistinct) packed in a stall… Read More
Pere David deer heard where very flighted deer. Very flighted. You had to be real careful working with them. One of them in the heard crashed into a fence and (indistinct) they hated each other. I don’t know what the cause of was they couldn’t stand each other. Even one… Read More
We put him on the deer range and wild horses there. We moved the horses to the rare animal range, (indistinct) this fellow that was from the farm in ohio. He had experience with eqquus. He’s afraid of the horses. What are you gonna do about that, nothing you can… Read More
You know what their job is and what you want their job to be. I think that’s extremely important. Then you find they right people for the job. We had a fellow who took care of the equus and he was there because he came from a farm in ohio… Read More
Some of them knew that I was going to make changes and some transferred to other areas. One went to the carbon shop. One went to the plumbing shop. One went to the machine shop. And then (indistinct) but I had to, I had some house cleaning to do. And… Read More
I was probably very much hands on management. I was there all the time. Because the mammal department wasn’t the department I wanted it to be when I took over. There were people who shouldn’t have been there. Not for any great reason. But it just wasn’t the job for… Read More
What would you say was your management style?… Read More
The chief veterinarian (indistinct) that was fine because it saved him his job. Then I got promoted. People thought needed to be promoted to be recognized who did the job the way I wanted it done. I wanted people to care about the animals and care about people too, that… Read More
No, no raise this week. And the other one never said a thing. He just wasn’t going to say a thing. That went on for a year, year and a half and met the fellow who was asking where his money was. (indistinct) he was 62. He was going to… Read More
And I told them, if they were not thinking of doing the job, that’s not what they should be doing (indistinct) one of them every two weeks, can I get my raise this week?… Read More
And they had no respect for keepers although they had been keepers themselves, they didn’t have much respect for any of the keepers. And vice versa. The way they were treated. And I could not let that go on. (indistinct) I didn’t see what was happening. Or I didn’t care… Read More