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Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 112

I never had one, he had three. I didn’t want them to type up the resume ’cause I didn’t want, A, I didn’t want them to know I was doing it, and B, I didn’t want to be embarrassed when I didn’t get the job. So I had this lady… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 113

Sort of, yes. Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 109

He said, “This is Charles Schroeder.” He said, “You’re not gonna talk about this zoo again.” He said to him, he said, “If you want to continue in this profession, this is it. You’re done talking about Riverbanks Zoo. You need to leave.” And he did, never said another word. Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 110

And he had a little, took a piece of 8 by 10 paper, and he put it on landscape and he wrote little grids on it, and he had the names of the people who applied in there, experience and all. He had this little chart. And I stayed out… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 106

He said, “I’ve got some work to do here in the office.” I said, “Good, I gotta go out and check on a few animals or something.” I come back and he hands me a piece of paper, and there was everything he had said the day before, with timelines. Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 107

He was a man’s man. And he’s standing there with this sheepish look on his face and a sledgehammer. And there’s a big chunk missing out of the top of this wall, and Dr. Schroeder’s standing there. And I walked up, I’m taking all this in, and I looked down… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 108

He was just an amazing man. So for six weeks, he set about… Well, the second day he was there, there was a small article in the paper, and it was about Mehrtens, and he had spoken to the Humane Society in Columbia the day before and said horrible things… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 103

So our tour of the zoo had lasted maybe 40 seconds, and he says, “Why is that wall there?” I said, “I don’t know. I didn’t have anything to do with putting the wall. That was Mehrtens.” “Tear it down.” “Oh, okay, (laughs) sure.” So we start going around the… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 104

Not because of an ego or feeling like I deserve, but we needed space. And I said to people, “Look, I’ll move into that office, but they’re gonna hire a director, and, you know, don’t read anything into this.” But I hadn’t moved anything personally. It still had some of… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 105

And for six weeks, that was his office. We shared a desk. I later found out that when he was director at San Diego, he had the door taken off his office. He couldn’t shut it. He didn’t believe in closed doors. And so the next morning I come in. Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 100

Dr. Charles Schroeder, who had been the longtime director of the San Diego Zoo and who had dreamed of and built the San Diego Wild Animal Park and before that had worked as veterinarian at the Bronx Zoo. I mean, he was just, he was a very, if you want… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 101

Zoo something out of the Midwest. Anyway, he wasn’t really employed by them, but when he was hired by the Zoo Commission, he was in discussions with them about becoming a consultant. Anyway, so I get a call that they’ve hired this man. I knew who he was, and I… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 102

And, oh, by the way, he’s now the acting director, and you’re the general curator again. So now I’m demoted. After about, I don’t know, two weeks, I’m no longer the acting director. So once Don Barton walked away, Dr. Schroeder asked me the most profound question that I think… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 98

All I was trying to do was keep the animals alive and fed. And this is the oddest thing to say. I don’t even know how we were opening the zoo in the morning. It just sort of happened. You know, there was no… There was no customer service department,… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 99

I was 101% focused on the animal collection. So now I’m the acting director, and still I’m focused on the animal collection. And Mehrtens unfortunately decided that he was not gonna go quietly, and he began attacking the Zoo Commission mostly and then me for his undoing. And remember, he… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 96

They called Bob Wagner, who at the time was the executive director of the AAZPA and said, “What do we do?… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 97

We got this guy that’s running amuck, and, you know, we’re trying to put the zoo back on financial footing, and we don’t know what to do.” And he said, “I got an idea for you.” He said, “You need to call this guy out in San Diego named Charlie… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 93

Everybody worked, we had a great day, it was a nice day. They had a lot of people in the zoo. Sunday, we had a nice day. Monday, you know, my head’s spinning like a top. And Tuesday afternoon, I got a call from the chairman of the commission and… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 94

And it basically said, “We the undersigned do not think that having three people run the zoo is a good idea. And therefore, you know, we like Satch, and we think he can handle this, and we all signed it.” And they did it. And I found out later that… Read More

Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 95

Mehrtens did not go quietly into the good night, and he just kept writing letters to the editor. He would give speeches at civic clubs and other places where the media would cover. And he was making all these incredible… He turned on me and said I’d stabbed him in… Read More

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