We had fallow deer in a nice exhibit. I mean, it was a good exhibit, but, You know, I don’t think they needed the help. So I just, I said, “You know, we could do a lot better, and it would be better for the public too, I think. But… Read More
So they were saying, “What is he doing, what’s he doing?” The same people who said they want change were saying, “What is he doing?… Read More
Well, I of course, I’ve always thought that it was a big thing in our, or else it should be part of our deal, you know?… Read More
And they didn’t really have a good idea of the kind of animals that they should have. In other words, it costs the same amount of money to keep a common antelope say, as it does to keep something rare. Same amount of money. Why not go to the one… Read More
We want you to change this zoo.” And I said, “I will do so, I will do it.” And so I remember getting rid of, (chuckling) I don’t remember what the heck it was that I got rid of. I got rid of some very common deer. Maybe, it was… Read More
There’s nobody to do it. And there was no, like lot of zoos would have educational graphics, you know, and that kind of stuff, which you should have. And there was nobody to do that either. So the first budget I had to deal with, I said I wanted to… Read More
They should have this,” so we got it. (laughing) And that’s, so everything, not everything is unlike Chicago, a lot of it’s the same. And that’s how we got it, and that’s how I got that position. And she did that and she was really, Elizabeth, Linda Taylor, and she… Read More
How was conservation at the zoo at the time you came in, and what role did you see the zoo playing?… Read More
Did you have any vision of what you wanted to put forth in education?… Read More
Well, one of the things that I really wanted, and this actually worked out well. One of the things I wanted was to do to, well let me say, first of all, there was almost there was essentially no zoo staff. And basically there was only a couple of people,… Read More
How would you make a sign to tell what, to say what an animal is, who’s gonna do that?… Read More
And they all got sent away to, it was to Washington. That’s where they, I don’t know why, but in Washington state, that’s where they were making the decision. And as it turns out, we got approved. And the city couldn’t say no, because it got to where, there was… Read More
What was your vision for an education element to the zoo, and how was that- Well that was very, that was actually done very well at the zoo. They actually handled that pretty well. They had a, that’s one of the things the Zoo Society was doing, and they did… Read More
And they did a lot of that. And I think that it was, they did a pretty good job. They did a good job. Read More
Yeah, let me say this. One of the things that was real good about the situation was that they had started, the city did something about starting to get architects on board to make a master plan for the zoo. And they were working on that before I got there,… Read More
You had to get with the, you know, make the zoo come into the 20th century, kind of thing. And luckily, I’ll tell you some, a very, very funny story, actually. We had a, as I said we had this master plan, and this is when the time, this is… Read More
They wanted to see a plan. And so we said, we were, we got together with the architects and we said, “Well, we wanna do three things that are relatively easy to do, to get started right away.” ‘Cause you had to have, on the 90th day, you had to… Read More
You couldn’t put them there. Some other guy with more seniority wanted that position, so that’s who got it. Read More
After you had time to walk around the zoo, talk to people, did you start to develop a vision for the zoo?… Read More
Well let me say- Start to implement it?… Read More