We needed, we needed facilities for all of the apes and the monkeys, and I mean, in a full way. And there should be, you know, not these, all these same cages, that it’s, you know, it’s really silly. So they went, the Society was soliciting funds, and there was… Read More
You know, he built all these homes, and you may have heard a old, sort of a modern folk song, “Houses made out of ticky-tacky,” did you ever hear that?… Read More
And Sulak was, Michael Sulak was in the office when this happened. We opened up the exhibit to the public and people came lots. And there was a guy, a man, that came to the office and he knocked on the door. And you know, we said, “Come in.” You… Read More
I didn’t know the guy, you know, and that was good. ‘Cause he had said that, “Well, I’ve been going to the zoo ever since I was a little kid, and nobody ever did this for the animals.” So that was a great, that made me very proud. Now this… Read More
How did you start to form that idea?… Read More
Well, the golden monkeys we brought in went into the primate center, that was done by that time. They were, they went into the Primate Discovery Center. Well then let’s- Okay, let’s talk about that. Read More
How did that vision for the Primate Discovery Center come about?… Read More
Well, you know, the primate cages, the cages that, the monkeys were in cages, the apes were on concrete. They just were outdated, antiquated exhibits. And now what we built was, we built a, The Gorilla World exhibit. That was what, was part of that money that we got from… Read More
Yeah, but that wasn’t in a bear grotto. No but I mean, so you were looking to bring in- Well, that was part of the part of a, yeah, yeah. Read More
It was part of a building program?… Read More
Or as part of an education program?… Read More
What were some of your other things that you were, that were on the books that you were trying to put together?… Read More
Well, there was, you know, there were quite a few really. Don’t even remember the bear grotto, if we did one. Read More
Well you brought in golden monkeys, didn’t you?… Read More
A bear grotto?… Read More
You were, were you continuing to build?… Read More
Oh, I don’t- With this master plan, were you continuing, you did Wolf Woods. Oh yeah. Read More
Now you were continuing to try and do some building. In 1984, you got 250,000 for a bear grotto, to build. Read More
How did you, was that part of the master plan?… Read More
How did you decide on that?… Read More