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So how do you deal with it?… Read More

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You have to know how to get along with other department heads, and yet somewhat forcefully, you have to push your philosophy. That was sort of internal politics. You have to be nice to the zoo director so that you can get what you want. But then it’s people skills… Read More

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As a new curator, what were your priorities?… Read More

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And in this new job as the curator, what hurdles did you have to overcome as a manager?… Read More

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It was insulated well from the external interference, but then you get into potential frictions with other department heads. Read More

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Mm-hmm. Read More

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What kind of thinking were you doing about zoo management?… Read More

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Despite what the general public thinks, zoo work is people work. Very, very clearly. Of course, you have to have extensive knowledge of animals in captivity and wildlife, and the experience. And yet, if you look at the zookeeper work, the position closest to animals, a keeper doesn’t spend all… Read More

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Who were the seniors, who was the director?… Read More

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Roy Shay. I still stay in touch with him. Read More

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At this time, were you forming your philosophy about zoo management?… Read More

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And when you got to the Indianapolis zoo, what kind of zoo did you find, was it different than Topeka?… Read More

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It was an old Indianapolis zoo. Not the current one. Not much different with the, a little larger animal collection. Read More

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And what happened that you decided to leave Topeka?… Read More

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I applied for a curatorship in Indianapolis’ old zoo. And I was accepted. So after three years and three months, I moved to another town in the Midwest. That was Indianapolis. Read More

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Why did you want to move up to a management position?… Read More

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It’s fine to stay with the animals on daily basis, but eventually, there are things you want to do something you cannot do as a keeper. You have to have some control over the animal collection. Acquiring new animals, or improve animal care. That you have to step up to… Read More

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Yes. I began to drive around extensively in the Midwest area. Chicago included, of course. And began to visit zoos. There are steps to learn the zoo trade. One is to watch animals extensively. Another one is to visit other zoos, and make a communications channel with other zoo people. Read More

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Journals and books. That was before the internet era. So I read books, and I read journals. Read More

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So, no. I had to learn two S’s. Speed and slang. So that was all I needed to add, as far as the conversational English. Read More