Well, I mean, that was the beginning of protective contact. We weren’t going in with them. I mean, we wound up modifying the elephant house with shoots and there were modifications, the doors were changed, electronic doors were put in, there was a shoot that was put in, it wasn’t… Read More
Kelly as a companion, how did that work out?… Read More
Elephants are elephants. By their own evolution and their own hierarchy, they survive by dominance. And, historically think that man was managing elephants through do, I mean, zoos took, whether it be elephants in the wild in India, how they were worked or on surfaces, used those methods on their… Read More
Why do you think Tinkerbell acted the way she did?… Read More
Well, she actually attacked, two people got hurt with her at that time. They were moving her, Tinkerbell was, there was no protected contact in those days. We’d go in with the animals and move them and then work with, and two people went in, they were doing a medical… Read More
Can you kind of tell me what happened?… Read More
I have to admit, that changed over the years. I mean, at Evansville, I worked so much, we did a lot of work with Capybara, I had never worked with them at Lincoln Park prior to them. I mean, I enjoyed them, pangolins, I was working with earlier in my… Read More
You had mentioned elephants that had left San Francisco zoo. You had an elephant named Tinkerbell. There was an incident in 1988 where she attacked her keepers. Read More
Did you ever have a favorite animal?… Read More
Well, I said earlier as a survivor, you know, Mike Sulak was a good guy. He worked with a lot of different people, I help them, they help me with collections. Maybe a few of them learned a few things from me over the years, whether they have Mike Sulakism,… Read More
How would you like to be remembered?… Read More
What do you know about this profession that you devoted so much time of your life to?… Read More
Well, yeah, I’m a simple man with simple taste. I enjoyed the animals. I mean, I’m not thinking of anybody else but me now, for me just to work with some animals, to watch some animals, to bring them in. I mean, it was just a causal effect I’d have… Read More
I think so. Read More
Is that correct?… Read More
And it’s just the cost of materials. And usually the materials are minimal compared to the wage cost. You said you’ve been in the profession 43 years. Read More
What could he be painted with that people?… Read More
One day a month, they would have a project where they’d get civic groups together to work on landscaping or paint something, the zoo where you could, all of a sudden you get, I mean, it could be from 10 to hundreds of people and in a day you have… Read More
And do you think the zoo can survive without it?… Read More
It’s becoming so hard to do that nowadays. But once again, it’s the dollar and cent. You look at 25, 30 years ago, municipalities were running the zoos. You know, you had that government money. Many zoos were free, many zoos, there’s not, I think I can think of two… Read More