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And as general curator, what were your new responsibilities at the Tulsa Zoo?… Read More

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Basically very, very similar to other small medium sized zoos. You stand between the director and the group of keepers who scream at you at times. So you are caught in the middle. Oh by the way, excuse me, one step back. My accomplishment in Indianapolis Zoo was to research… Read More

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What type of zoo was Tulsa as compared to the zoo you had come from, Indianapolis?… Read More

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At that time, Dave Zukoni was the director then. And there was some problems with news media and so forth. You have to professionalize the zoo somewhat. So I talked to Dave Zukoni, and he said come on over. Read More

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And was it a different title you were hired for?… Read More

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General curator. Read More

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And the next zoo you go to is the Tulsa Zoo?… Read More

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And how did that move to the Tulsa Zoo, and in what position, how did that happen?… Read More

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You have to talk to keepers to get them do what you want to have. So now you have to talk to them, and respect them as fellow human beings. That, some people can’t do, some people can do. Hard way, I think I learned it the hard way. Now… Read More

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Why did you decide to leave?… Read More

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Larger opportunities. Larger collections. Larger zoos, in other words. Read More

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What did you want to accomplish first?… Read More

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So how do you deal with it?… Read More

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You have to know how to get along with other department heads, and yet somewhat forcefully, you have to push your philosophy. That was sort of internal politics. You have to be nice to the zoo director so that you can get what you want. But then it’s people skills… Read More

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As a new curator, what were your priorities?… Read More

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And in this new job as the curator, what hurdles did you have to overcome as a manager?… Read More

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It was insulated well from the external interference, but then you get into potential frictions with other department heads. Read More

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Mm-hmm. Read More

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What kind of thinking were you doing about zoo management?… Read More

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Despite what the general public thinks, zoo work is people work. Very, very clearly. Of course, you have to have extensive knowledge of animals in captivity and wildlife, and the experience. And yet, if you look at the zookeeper work, the position closest to animals, a keeper doesn’t spend all… Read More