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Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 231

Why can’t we play nice?… Read More

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“Well, blah, blah, blah.” “Well, blah, blah.” I’m like, yeah, but that was in 1975, for God’s sakes. It’s been too long. Let’s play nice, let’s play together, for the good of the zoo. Read More

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What’s gonna be good for the zoo?… Read More

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And they all looked at me. I mean, they didn’t know what the meeting was about. Read More

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They had no idea what the meeting was about, except that I wanted to talk to ’em about the zoo, right?… Read More

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And so I said, why can’t we play together?… Read More

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And I said, so, we’re done with this, “We ain’t talking to each other.” We’re done with, the Zoo Society’s gonna talk to the city, the city’s gonna talk to the Zoo Society, I’m gonna talk to both of you guys. We’re all gonna talk to each other. We’re gonna… Read More

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Can we play nice?… Read More

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They help raise money for the zoo, which the city supports from the bottom, right?… Read More

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And then all I am is the spark on the top of the candles. Read More

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I’m the spark that gets all this stuff together, right?… Read More

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And I demanded one, and they gave it to me. Shock. They gave it to me. So the Zoo Society was so alienated that I said, well, that’s not gonna work. We can’t do that. And so I made a pledge that every time I got in the car to… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 221

And I had this silly thing I called “the cake model.” Stupid, I know, but it worked. So I had this cake model. And so they had a big old chalkboard up there. And so I drew on the chalkboard, I drew a cake, and I said, now here’s the… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 222

There’s the cake, and the zoo society is the icing and the candles. So they let us do all the little fun stuff, like build new exhibits, and they help raise money for that. And they help us with our education programs. They help us with this, and that, and… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 217

You try, in the first six months, the only thing you could do in the first six months, and I wasn’t completely good at this, but the only thing you do in the first six months is walk around, talk to people, and learn the lay of land. Don’t do… Read More

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So one of the things I negotiated, when I took the job at Pittsburgh, with the city was I wanted a mobile phone. Now, mobile phones were about this big at that time, they looked like a handheld radio, there were huge, and there were seven of them in the… Read More

Interview 21409 – Caption Index: 219

Seven of them at the time in the whole city administration, whole city government, right?… Read More

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Oh, that was funny. Read More

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So I get there in 1990, right?… Read More

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Hot off the press, new director, all fired up, all excited. And the zoo society and the zoo did not get along. They did not speak. They did not speak to each other, like once or twice a year. And the executive director of the Zoo Society office was in… Read More

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