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Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 146

the story about how the James R. Record Aquarium was built?… Read More

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Sure. Oh, that was a one, that was my first real project in the zoo world. And I had come from Dallas, and I’ve told you the circumstances of Dallas and all. And here it was a new world. I wasn’t the kid next door. I was this college kid… Read More

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Isn’t it gonna be built in the zoo?” “Yes.” “Well, but that’s city property.” “Yes.” “Well, when we take a mortgage, we own the the land.” I said, “Well, we can work that out, I’m sure. I’ll get co-signers.” I didn’t have any co-signers. But I said, “How many co-signers… Read More

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And probably good, because I was probably crazy on, you know, what the hell’s Curtis doing now money-wise?… Read More

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And then I had an attorney on my board. Now, Snakard was on the bank’s board. My attorney was very conservative. Read More

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He said, “My bank is just a pissant bank. Go down there and borrow the money, against you get some sort of a feasibility study, based on the aquarium. Hell, they give, they loan money every day to businesses. This is a business. Okay. So I went down to the… Read More

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He said, “Well, where’s the building gonna be built?… Read More

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Well, where are we gonna get it?… Read More

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The cost of that building was estimated at about $120,000. We could build things there. We knew contractors and all that. We really got two or $3 for every dollar we spent. And we didn’t have the money to build a herpetarium. We’d spent it on gorillas and the gorilla… Read More

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At that time, Amon Carter had died. His son was on my board, but he was not like his father. I mean, he was just, he was very interested in the zoo, but he didn’t really understand what he needed to do. Kirk Johnson was dead. I got a deal,… Read More

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Why was that high on my list?… Read More

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Oh yeah, why did we build a herpetarium?… Read More

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Number one, we didn’t have a reptile exhibit. We needed one. If we’re gonna show animals, reptiles, well, I don’t have to tell you this. We got vertebrate animals, birds, reptiles, and fishes and mammals. And so a major, a major taxon was missing from the zoo. Number two, though,… Read More

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My interest in this, it was a herpetarium, by the way. You have to call it by it’s correct name. I made that name up, by the way. Obviously, I wanted a large reptile exhibit for my own interest. Also though, when we built this aquarium, Mark, we charged admission… Read More

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We made a deal with the park department, ’cause they were over the zoo, that any money that we earned at the zoo stayed at the zoo. It didn’t have to go to the city hall. Someone told me to do that, and I think it was Robert Bean, I’m… Read More

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He and Roger hated each other. But anyway, that’s kind of the territory. The idea that… I’m sorry, I’ve gotten off on these tangents. Talking about the aquarium. Read More

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Oh, yes! I always, that was, that’s the big disappointment, though, in my zoo career. I did a lot to try to get research going. I could get somebody to come in, you know, zoologists, professors usually, and send students down. We even got, when I was at Portland, we… Read More

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What was the process?… Read More

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Why was it important to build it, because of your interest?… Read More

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And here was a chance to learn, really learn something about a very important animal, an animal that we had in the zoo. And we wanted to learn more. And some of that was ivory towers. Some of it was just plain, pure science. But a lot of it was… Read More

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