Interview 22877 – Caption Index: 331
And I’m at this meeting with all these people and they said, and, you know, and where are the animals going to be?… Read More
And I’m at this meeting with all these people and they said, and, you know, and where are the animals going to be?… Read More
You know, are you going to, you know, where do we do this?… Read More
And Bruce says, “Oh no, they’re gonna be there.” And I’m thinking, “You’re gonna tell me this when, that we’re gonna be doing construction and I have to keep the animals?… Read More
And I’m going, “I know how we do it here. This is not what I’m going to learn.” But I finally went and I came back and I said, “Well, you know, you’ve got your five-year plan and you do this.” Bruce says, “Well, we don’t do it that way.”… Read More
And they decided they were gonna do a mock-up of the, help us, sort of how we could redesign the feline building. Read More
Were you involved ever as a curator in the future planning of zoo exhibits and, or recommendations to bring certain animals into the Milwaukee Zoo?… Read More
Mm-hmm, we did, well, we did several renovations when I was there. Bruce had a very interesting way of doing animal, I mean, Milwaukee had a very interesting way of deciding what they were going to do. He was, remember, there were like four or five master plans that were… Read More
Did you have issues like that at Milwaukee when you were dealing with all your staff?… Read More
In general, I had one, I think I had one EEO suite. I discriminated against him because he was Hispanic, but it didn’t go anywhere. So it never got to the level as it did with CJ. Read More
I mean, in general?… Read More
Did they ever affect you, and for example, the equal opportunity, did you have keepers complain about your style or what you were doing and how you were managing them?… Read More
But you deal with people. Read More
Oh yeah, well, I had one keeper at the National Zoo who wanted to work elephants and, strange individual, but, you know, we were, Don was working with us and I went into the hay room and he’s working with an Angus and just going, just bearing it in hale… Read More
Well, I had dealt with it a little bit at the National Zoo. I mean, I knew Sue at PETA before she retired and Jeanie after she took over her job. So PETA never got involved in the elephant controversy in Milwaukee. I mean, they called and I explained what… Read More
Do you feel that curators, and at that level, should be schooled and made aware of all the implications of animal activism and animal rights as it, do you think they have enough or did you have enough?… Read More
I think the controversy was just this one woman who never let it go. She spent two and a half years getting the elephants out of Milwaukee, and that’s all she did. And, you know, when you’ve got a job and someone is spending two and a half years working… Read More
Or how did that work and what were your feelings?… Read More
Well, I was involved in, yes, you know, I had to be on Milwaukee Television with Chuck and I had to be there with Kevin Nealon and Bob Barker. Luckily Bob Barker would never come into the zoo, but they were, Bob Barker was in town and Alec Baldwin was… Read More
Did you feel that the type of training you received for dealing with and understanding and having some relationship with animal rights people was the kind of training that you might then give to other people or, I mean, did you learn lessons from that, in those type of interactions?… Read More
They were loading her up and she, they finally got her loaded, but it was difficult. And Don did the, Don and his, did the transport. And she urinated and, you know, it came out red, so this woman was there and it was, oh, she’s bleeding it, this is… Read More