I wasn’t. Bruce did that. And then you learned about, if you were gonna have this species or that species or- Well, it didn’t really involve, it was more of a physical master plan. And since I knew it wasn’t going to happen, because the county didn’t have the budget,… Read More
And went, okay, I need… Well, you had to do the research. You know, if you needed, I wanted scales. I had to find scales that you could use with the animals, ’cause most of my animals couldn’t, they didn’t develop scales and you couldn’t, we were weighing elephants with… Read More
Could you make changes, could you… Well, I don’t know if you could make changes. We often, you know, you had a policy manual that never sort of changed and sort of if someone would, I got grieved because I was used to if someone needed help, you would go… Read More
When you were at Milwaukee, did you help to develop policies that might have changed the direction of the zoo in certain management areas that you were active in?… Read More
Was there a mentor you would speak with or was it?… Read More
Oh no, you just did it. Read More
They just said, what do you need?… Read More
Oh, budgeting was, well, budgeting for the government, federal and county government is very different than budgeting your private budget, ’cause it’s not like you have an amount of money that you know you have to keep within. I mean, I had, the federal budget was, National Zoo was good… Read More
I didn’t have to do any of those reports. Read More
Did you have people guiding you through it?… Read More
Budgeting, I had to produce a budget every year and keep track of the budget. Policy, I had to do collection plans, animal collection plans. So basically it was related to the animals, then yes, but policy, I can’t think of anything other than that. You know, education had a… Read More
When you were budgeting, was it fun?… Read More
Was it a task?… Read More
Did you enjoy it?… Read More
Well, I don’t know if you talk about educational value. I think just the contact, you know, just contact with the animals have educational value. We do animal talks. I mean, do a camel talk every, during the summer, where animals come out and, you know, the keeper will make… Read More
Do you think that animal rides, in general, have educational value for children or adults, I guess?… Read More
How involved at the zoo, Milwaukee Zoo, where you spent most of your time, were you involved in budgeting and policymaking at your level?… Read More
What are your thoughts on animal rides in zoos, be they pony rides or elephant rides or animal rides or?… Read More
My management plan changed immediately. We stopped breeding. You know, we’re not replacing any animals until this goes. And I’m going, and this was two years before, this was a year before we were supposed to start construction, so yeah. So I know how not to do it. I’m not… Read More
We still have pony rides. I think the camel rides have stopped. The elephant rides, getting rid of the elephant rides was part of the whole Lota deal, so we got rid of elephant rides and we still, one of the elephants at the zoo used to be one of… Read More