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Never went?… Read More

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Mm-mm, or Sacred. Read More

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Had you been to Lincoln Park Zoo or Brookfield?… Read More

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Oh yeah, from TV. Read More

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So somewhere in my mind I thought I’m gonna go off and do research in Africa and it never materialized, but it did get me thinking more of the exotic animals. Read More

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Actually that was still the – I didn’t know what I was gonna do and I had a great animal science professor who took me aside one day and he thought I should go to grad school. In fact he walked me down to the office to get my papers. Read More

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So you knew who Marlin Perkins was?… Read More

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Actually I ended up double majoring in Psychology and Zoology. I think I was the last year they actually had a zoo department. Read More

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And then you said in college you were thinking or more aware of zoos?… Read More

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How did that come about?… Read More

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College was University of Illinois in Champaign. ‘Cause it was a family tradition. You know, dad had gone there. Grandpa had gone there. So it was just kind of a thing. My sister had gone there. And it’s an in-state school, so again, costs were down. That helped. Read More

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But it had a good reputation, so. Read More

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What was your degree in?… Read More

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So what was your schooling like?… Read More

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You mentioned college. Read More

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Where did you go to college and academic?… Read More

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None. Mm-mm. Sorry. Zoos didn’t come ’til, I didn’t think about it ’til college. Read More

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You didn’t think about zoos or working with animals?… Read More

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I guess I always thought I wanted to work with animals, but you know, a lot of us wanted to grow up and be veterinarians until you found out the amount of work that was involved in it. And there weren’t that many jobs. At that. Read More

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See zoos when you were growing up?… Read More