Yes. But that never came to fruition. We never did put animals out there, just because before you do that, you know, you have to have somebody staying there all the time. You have to have security there all the time. It just, the cost of it kinda, it was… Read More
But was the original intent to have aurochs, or other animals from the zoo having an ancillary breeding area?… Read More
And it wasn’t until a week later when they were gonna go, the architect that they’d chosen was from, I’ve forgotten where, someplace in Minnesota or whatever. And we were gonna fly, and so here we took Ralston Purina’s private jet on air, and Charlie says, “Well, I want you… Read More
Now during the time you were assistant director, wasn’t there another proposal made to people about a breeding farm?… Read More
Charlie and I and a couple of others on the staff, we had always, were interested in acquiring some other property because we were limited as to what we could do within our own, you know, part of Forest Park. And we went and looked at quite a number of… Read More
Oh, maybe I’ll just keep my mouth shut.” You know, it was like that. Read More
Didn’t realize that Charlie felt the exact same way, but he just couldn’t say that to Bob Hyland, who was pushing this farming thing with Purina Mills, you know, down Charlie’s throat, you know?… Read More
They were gonna have chickens in layer cages, where the legs would come out and so forth. But they’re all in small cages. They were going to have hogs and that on slatted floors, and so forth. And then they were gonna have an area where they would be taking… Read More
And it was like, “Oh shoot, here I’m doing, I was offering some advice, you know?… Read More
While we don’t have, I think we have a great relationship with the Humane Society and that, there are certain animal rights people that don’t necessarily agree with some of the modern farming.” And I said something like, “And this manure transforming, this is a crock of shit. You know,… Read More
Or were you just kinda following what the director wanted to do?… Read More
Well, it’s fun. Charlie was a great guy to work for. He was a taskmaster, you better do what he asked. But he really was, really great. Now, I remember one incidence where we were going to do something, we were gonna add to the zoo. Now the zoo is… Read More
But there was this other area that wasn’t being utilized. And our our chairman of the board, very powerful individual in St. Louis, Bob Hyland, he ran the city in a way, because he ran KMOX, powerful radio station. Everybody that advertised anything happened through him, and he was the… Read More
Is he losing weight, is he getting,” you know?… Read More
Now did you feel then that as the assistant director, you were having a major input in starting to shape the direction of the zoo?… Read More
And so everybody is finally, it’s coming to everybody’s sight, “Well, we all have an input in this. There’s all, everybody has something to add to it, and you know, and we can come up with something.” And so the consultants group was a really neat group of people that,… Read More
What kind of diet should we have for a pangolin?” And I chose a species that nobody would be familiar with, you know?… Read More
And you know, the nutritionist, “Well, it has to be so much balance between proteins and fats and you know, what mineral content and so on.” And the behaviorist said, “Well, you go to the wild and you collect the feces from them, and you know, you sacrifice a few… Read More
“Oh it’s easy, you know?” The dentist said, “You know, well let’s look at his teeth and see what kind of teeth he has, and we’ll be able to figure it out,” you know?… Read More
We had you know, and I says, “Okay, how should we put a diet together?… Read More